Re: [boost] New name of bjam.exe
How about calling it "baby"?
Subject: [boost] New name of bjam.exe Message-ID: <201007201245.08070.ghost@cs.msu.su> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii"
Does anybody have comments, or better suggestions?
Thanks, Volodya
I actually like "boob", but if some object to it, to make it slightly less obvious (offensive?), it could be boobi "Boost Build Interpreter". Also bbi or bobi, or boostie (Boost Interpreted Environment?) -Matt Roland Bock wrote:
Tan, Tom (Shanghai) wrote:
How about calling it "baby"?
Or boob (as in BOOst Build)? Sorry, could not resist...
How about
bbt (boost build tool) ?
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Matt Chambers <matthew.chambers@vanderbilt.edu> wrote:
I actually like "boob", but if some object to it, to make it slightly less obvious (offensive?), it could be boobi "Boost Build Interpreter". Also bbi or bobi, or boostie (Boost Interpreted Environment?)
And what if I forget what website I can download that build tool from? I'm sure as hell not going to search "boob" from work, no matter what I might append (e.g. "boob build" isn't any better). This goes for the "babe" suggestion as well. On topic, I think an earlier suggestion to just choose a word, made up or not, that is easy to say and not taken has a lot of merit - Jam, Ant, Nant, CMake, Scons, etc... Since it has history as bjam you could play off that, Jelly Build, Marmalade, Gelatin Build, Gelato, etc... --Michael Fawcett
AMDG Michael Fawcett wrote:
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Matt Chambers <matthew.chambers@vanderbilt.edu> wrote:
I actually like "boob", but if some object to it, to make it slightly less obvious (offensive?), it could be boobi "Boost Build Interpreter". Also bbi or bobi, or boostie (Boost Interpreted Environment?)
And what if I forget what website I can download that build tool from? I'm sure as hell not going to search "boob" from work, no matter what I might append (e.g. "boob build" isn't any better). This goes for the "babe" suggestion as well.
On topic, I think an earlier suggestion to just choose a word, made up or not, that is easy to say and not taken has a lot of merit - Jam, Ant, Nant, CMake, Scons, etc... Since it has history as bjam you could play off that, Jelly Build, Marmalade, Gelatin Build, Gelato, etc...
Honestly, if we're going to pick a totally arbitrary name, I'd prefer leaving it alone. In Christ, Steven Watanabe
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Steven Watanabe <watanabesj@gmail.com> wrote:
Honestly, if we're going to pick a totally arbitrary name, I'd prefer leaving it alone.
Not that it matters much, but I'm fine with that too. I only added suggestions since Volodya wanted to get away from the Jam connotation. --Michael Fawcett
Steven Watanabe wrote:
AMDG
Michael Fawcett wrote:
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Matt Chambers <matthew.chambers@vanderbilt.edu> wrote:
I actually like "boob", but if some object to it, to make it slightly less obvious (offensive?), it could be boobi "Boost Build Interpreter". Also bbi or bobi, or boostie (Boost Interpreted Environment?)
And what if I forget what website I can download that build tool from? I'm sure as hell not going to search "boob" from work, no matter what I might append (e.g. "boob build" isn't any better). This goes for the "babe" suggestion as well.
On topic, I think an earlier suggestion to just choose a word, made up or not, that is easy to say and not taken has a lot of merit - Jam, Ant, Nant, CMake, Scons, etc... Since it has history as bjam you could play off that, Jelly Build, Marmalade, Gelatin Build, Gelato, etc...
Honestly, if we're going to pick a totally arbitrary name, I'd prefer leaving it alone.
I agree. The problem we're starting with is that "bjam.exe" is not correlated to "Boost.Build" at all. Replacing "bjam.exe" with something totally random will only create more confusion. - Volodya
At Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:13:09 +0400, Vladimir Prus wrote:
Honestly, if we're going to pick a totally arbitrary name, I'd prefer leaving it alone.
I agree. The problem we're starting with is that "bjam.exe" is not correlated to "Boost.Build" at all. Replacing "bjam.exe" with something totally random will only create more confusion.
Maybe the whole system should be called bjam. -- Dave Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com
Vladimir Prus wrote:
Steven Watanabe wrote:
Honestly, if we're going to pick a totally arbitrary name, I'd prefer leaving it alone.
I agree. The problem we're starting with is that "bjam.exe" is not correlated to "Boost.Build" at all. Replacing "bjam.exe" with something totally random will only create more confusion.
When I suggested something correlated to Boost.Build, it was rejected. I'm having a hard time understanding what's wanted. _____ Rob Stewart robert.stewart@sig.com Software Engineer, Core Software using std::disclaimer; Susquehanna International Group, LLP http://www.sig.com IMPORTANT: The information contained in this email and/or its attachments is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by reply and immediately delete this message and all its attachments. Any review, use, reproduction, disclosure or dissemination of this message or any attachment by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. Neither this message nor any attachment is intended as or should be construed as an offer, solicitation or recommendation to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument. Neither the sender, his or her employer nor any of their respective affiliates makes any warranties as to the completeness or accuracy of any of the information contained herein or that this message or any of its attachments is free of viruses.
On 7/20/2010 10:25 AM, Stewart, Robert wrote:
Vladimir Prus wrote:
Steven Watanabe wrote:
Honestly, if we're going to pick a totally arbitrary name, I'd prefer leaving it alone.
I agree. The problem we're starting with is that "bjam.exe" is not correlated to "Boost.Build" at all. Replacing "bjam.exe" with something totally random will only create more confusion.
When I suggested something correlated to Boost.Build, it was rejected. I'm having a hard time understanding what's wanted.
Actually.. I'm kinda liking "bb". It's short and correlated. But so far no other suggestion has resonated with me. And I agree that choosing an totally unrelated term means renaming the entire project to that term so that there's correlation. -- -- Grafik - Don't Assume Anything -- Redshift Software, Inc. - http://redshift-software.com -- rrivera/acm.org (msn) - grafik/redshift-software.com -- 102708583/icq - grafikrobot/aim,yahoo,skype,efnet,gmail
Vladimir Prus wrote:
Steven Watanabe wrote:
Honestly, if we're going to pick a totally arbitrary name, I'd prefer leaving it alone.
I agree. The problem we're starting with is that "bjam.exe" is not correlated to "Boost.Build" at all. Replacing "bjam.exe" with something totally random will only create more confusion.
When I suggested something correlated to Boost.Build, it was rejected. I'm having a hard time understanding what's wanted.
The issue is the name is required to have two properties: - Indicates that it is the Build tool under the Boost brand - But _doesn't_ suggest it is useful only for building the Boost C++ libraries With those criteria, I quite like "BBL", short for "the Boost Build Library", but prounceable as "bubble".
On 7/20/2010 9:31 AM, Michael Fawcett wrote:
I actually like "boob", but if some object to it, to make it slightly less obvious (offensive?), it could be boobi "Boost Build Interpreter". Also bbi or bobi, or boostie (Boost Interpreted Environment?) And what if I forget what website I can download that build tool from? I'm sure as hell not going to search "boob" from work, no matter what I might append (e.g. "boob build" isn't any better). This goes for
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Matt Chambers <matthew.chambers@vanderbilt.edu> wrote: the "babe" suggestion as well.
On topic, I think an earlier suggestion to just choose a word, made up or not, that is easy to say and not taken has a lot of merit - Jam, Ant, Nant, CMake, Scons, etc... Since it has history as bjam you could play off that, Jelly Build, Marmalade, Gelatin Build, Gelato, etc... Pfft, isn't looking for a build tool a great excuse to search for "boob" at work?! :)
I googled for "boobi" with safesearch off and there are no work inappropriate results (I'm kind of surprised it didn't ask me if I meant "boob"). Beyond that, bbi, boostie or boosty would work. Making up a word is reasonable, but picking a new name that isn't solely related to "Boost Build" will either cause the same problem (i.e. what is the difference between Boost Jelly and Boost Build?) or will require rebranding all of Boost Build to the new name. "bbi", boostie or boosty wouldn't have that problem. Is "bbi" taken by any existing widely used tool? -Matt
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Matthew Chambers <matt.chambers42@gmail.com> wrote:
Pfft, isn't looking for a build tool a great excuse to search for "boob" at work?! :)
:)
Beyond that, bbi, boostie or boosty would work. Making up a word is reasonable, but picking a new name that isn't solely related to "Boost Build" will either cause the same problem (i.e. what is the difference between Boost Jelly and Boost Build?) or will require rebranding all of Boost Build to the new name. "bbi", boostie or boosty wouldn't have that problem. Is "bbi" taken by any existing widely used tool?
I meant rebranding, but I realize that's too disruptive of a change. I like "bb". --Michael Fawcett
On 20 Jul 2010, at 18:15, Michael Fawcett wrote:
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Matthew Chambers <matt.chambers42@gmail.com> wrote:
Pfft, isn't looking for a build tool a great excuse to search for "boob" at work?! :)
:)
Beyond that, bbi, boostie or boosty would work. Making up a word is reasonable, but picking a new name that isn't solely related to "Boost Build" will either cause the same problem (i.e. what is the difference between Boost Jelly and Boost Build?) or will require rebranding all of Boost Build to the new name. "bbi", boostie or boosty wouldn't have that problem. Is "bbi" taken by any existing widely used tool?
I meant rebranding, but I realize that's too disruptive of a change. I like "bb".
Just to repeat, bb (and the recently suggested bam) already exist in the debian repositories. Using these names would cause problems with existing programs, and packagers. That seems a bit impolite to these other projects. In particular, bam is already a build system. Chris
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Christopher Jefferson <chris@bubblescope.net> wrote:
Just to repeat, bb (and the recently suggested bam) already exist in the debian repositories. Using these names would cause problems with existing programs, and packagers. That seems a bit impolite to these other projects. In particular, bam is already a build system.
I think it would still be called "Boost.Build", but "bjam.exe" would be renamed "bb.exe". --Michael Fawcett
Christopher Jefferson wrote:
On 20 Jul 2010, at 18:15, Michael Fawcett wrote:
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Matthew Chambers <matt.chambers42@gmail.com> wrote:
Pfft, isn't looking for a build tool a great excuse to search for "boob" at work?! :)
:)
Beyond that, bbi, boostie or boosty would work. Making up a word is reasonable, but picking a new name that isn't solely related to "Boost Build" will either cause the same problem (i.e. what is the difference between Boost Jelly and Boost Build?) or will require rebranding all of Boost Build to the new name. "bbi", boostie or boosty wouldn't have that problem. Is "bbi" taken by any existing widely used tool?
I meant rebranding, but I realize that's too disruptive of a change. I like "bb".
Just to repeat, bb (and the recently suggested bam) already exist in the debian repositories.
It sees that 'bb' is actually '/usr/games/bb', not '/usr/bin/bb', so I don't see a conflict. I'd imagine the package name will still rename boost-build. - Volodya
On 10-07-20 9:24 AM, Matt Chambers wrote:
Roland Bock wrote:
Tan, Tom (Shanghai) wrote:
How about calling it "baby"?
Or boob (as in BOOst Build)? Sorry, could not resist...
How about
bbt (boost build tool) ?
I actually like "boob", but if some object to it, to make it slightly less obvious (offensive?), it could be boobi "Boost Build Interpreter". Also bbi or bobi, or boostie (Boost Interpreted Environment?)
-Matt
+1 to variations on boob. I thought it was just me but I also thought of that. I'm partial to boostb, as fun as it would be to type boobi hundreds of times a week.
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 7:32 AM, Roland Bock <rbock@eudoxos.de> wrote:
How about
bbt (boost build tool) ?
I'm a fan of bb and if it causes a serious naming conflict, bbt as mentioned above. One of the things that really impressed me with mercurial was it's command name hg. Two letters, and both very close to the home row, yet at the same time related to the project name. I think a good criteria would be (in no particular order): - No major conflicts with other tools. - Quick to type (homerow+1, short+1) - Good relation to the project name. - A name that isn't offensive to reflect the quality and professionalism of our community here. David -- David Sankel Sankel Software www.sankelsoftware.com 585 617 4748 (Office)
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