One of the problems I perceived with Boost SoC involvement last year is that very few of the projects have come up for review, with the notable exception of Bimap. Would it be possible to bump SoC projects up the review queue to get feedback while the student is still participating, towards the end of the SoC period? Perhaps have a special SoC review queue for 'mini-reviews' where the students can present to the wider Boost audience and hopefully be encouraged to continue the work for a more complete review. This is also a good time to get other people involved who may help bring that work through to final review - I am not sure about Google's policy on shared participation during the SoC period itself. -- AlisdairM
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One of the problems I perceived with Boost SoC involvement last year is that very few of the projects have come up for review, with the notable exception of Bimap.
Would it be possible to bump SoC projects up the review queue to get feedback while the student is still participating, towards the end of the SoC period?
Perhaps have a special SoC review queue for 'mini-reviews' where the students can present to the wider Boost audience and hopefully be encouraged to continue the work for a more complete review.
In a paper I wrote about the experience with GSoC 06: http://boost.org/more/boost_soc_06_overview.html I propose something similar, informal reviews to be held by the end of the official GSoC period. As you, I think most projects will need to extend well past GSoC deadlines, which is not a bad thing if people know in advance. As I see it, there is no need to bump projects in the review queue, since informal reviews need not interfere with the formal procedure.
This is also a good time to get other people involved who may help bring that work through to final review - I am not sure about Google's policy on shared participation during the SoC period itself.
Work is supposed to be done on an individual basis during GSoC --after that, no further restrictions apply and more people could join the project. Joaquín M López Muñoz Telefónica, Investigación y Desarrollo
Joaquín Mª López Muñoz wrote:
AlisdairM ha escrito:
One of the problems I perceived with Boost SoC involvement last year is that very few of the projects have come up for review, with the notable exception of Bimap.
Would it be possible to bump SoC projects up the review queue to get feedback while the student is still participating, towards the end of the SoC period?
Perhaps have a special SoC review queue for 'mini-reviews' where the students can present to the wider Boost audience and hopefully be encouraged to continue the work for a more complete review.
In a paper I wrote about the experience with GSoC 06:
http://boost.org/more/boost_soc_06_overview.html
I propose something similar, informal reviews to be held by the end of the official GSoC period. As you, I think most projects will need to extend well past GSoC deadlines, which is not a bad thing if people know in advance. As I see it, there is no need to bump projects in the review queue, since informal reviews need not interfere with the formal procedure.
I believe we could get the review wizard to rearrange for SoC projects if we really thought that students could get the project done in the SoC time period. Most can't be though, so that's why we didn't really require it last year. Frankly though, I'm much more inclined to go for Boost extension projects where students can work on existing libraries instead of new totally libraries because of these results. I think Boost will get more out of it although it's less desireable for students because they don't get to invent a whole new library. Jeff
-----Original Message----- From: boost-bounces@lists.boost.org [mailto:boost-bounces@lists.boost.org] On Behalf Of AlisdairM Sent: 07 March 2007 07:53 To: boost@lists.boost.org Subject: [boost] [SoC] Boost review and the SoC timetable
One of the problems I perceived with Boost SoC involvement last year is that very few of the projects have come up for review, with the notable exception of Bimap.
Would it be possible to bump SoC projects up the review queue to get feedback while the student is still participating, towards the end of the SoC period?
Perhaps have a special SoC review queue for 'mini-reviews' where the students can present to the wider Boost audience and hopefully be encouraged to continue the work for a more complete review. This is also a good time to get other people involved who may help bring that work through to final review - I am not sure about Google's policy on shared participation during the SoC period itself.
I support this. Although some discussions have taken place, a review might focus more attention and might lead to more useful output - as you say it is disappointing to only get one project into use (though work by Xiaogang Zhang on math functions will come up for review soon when the whole math toolkit is reviewed, probably in April). Paul --- Paul A Bristow Prizet Farmhouse, Kendal, Cumbria UK LA8 8AB +44 1539561830 & SMS, Mobile +44 7714 330204 & SMS pbristow@hetp.u-net.com
Paul A Bristow wrote:
Perhaps have a special SoC review queue for 'mini-reviews' where the students can present to the wider Boost audience and hopefully be encouraged to continue the work for a more complete review. This is also a good time to get other people involved who may help bring that work through to final review - I am not sure about Google's policy on shared participation during the SoC period itself.
I support this. Although some discussions have taken place, a review might focus more attention and might lead to more useful output - as you say it is disappointing to only get one project into use (though work by Xiaogang Zhang on math functions will come up for review soon when the whole math toolkit is reviewed, probably in April).
One of the problem we have is students dissappearing after the SOC period ends (all the projects have this to some extent). That's why I suggested earlier that we focus some of our projects on patches/extensions to other libraries, so the library maintainer can pick up the patches and run with them as they see fit. I'm still hoping to see more of last years output up for review though, there's some good stuff in there.... John.
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