[Hana] Postponing release to 1.61.0
Hi, Some of you might know that I have been pushing hard to deliver Hana with the next Boost release. I have even taken the (soft) engagement to do so at CppCon in last September. However, due to some time constraints, it is now clear that Hana will not be included in Boost 1.60.0, the limit for new libraries being yesterday. I hoped really hard to make it in time for Boost 1.60.0, but the closing of the release branch ~1 month before the release date got me by surprise. All in all, this is not too bad since there are still a couple issues that must be addressed, and I believe that taking more time to address them properly will be beneficial to the community in the long term. Also, while I really wanted to make Hana available to the wider community ASAP, I do not think waiting 3 more months will be very harmful. Given the current level of C++14 support in compilers, only people on Clang >= 3.5 would have been able to use Hana, and I do not think this represents such a huge amount of potential users. As a side note, given my previous announcements, some users might find it strange not to see Hana as part of 1.60.0. Hence, I wonder whether it would be possible to include a short note with a link to this message somewhere in the release notes for 1.60.0? Regards, Louis
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Louis Dionne <ldionne.2@gmail.com> wrote:
Some of you might know that I have been pushing hard to deliver Hana with the next Boost release. I have even taken the (soft) engagement to do so at CppCon in last September.
However, due to some time constraints, it is now clear that Hana will not be included in Boost 1.60.0, the limit for new libraries being yesterday. I hoped really hard to make it in time for Boost 1.60.0, but the closing of the release branch ~1 month before the release date got me by surprise.
Thanks for being understanding of the release process :-) We'll (i.e. I) try to make the release schedule more prominent to curtail such surprises in the future. As a side note, given my previous announcements, some users might find it
strange not to see Hana as part of 1.60.0. Hence, I wonder whether it would be possible to include a short note with a link to this message somewhere in the release notes for 1.60.0?
Definitely.. Just submit a PR for the release notes < https://github.com/boostorg/website/blob/master/feed/history/boost_1_60_0.qbk>. Best place would be to add a section right before the "[section Compilers Tested]". -- -- Rene Rivera -- Grafik - Don't Assume Anything -- Robot Dreams - http://robot-dreams.net -- rrivera/acm.org (msn) - grafikrobot/aim,yahoo,skype,efnet,gmail
Rene Rivera <grafikrobot <at> gmail.com> writes:
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Louis Dionne <ldionne.2 <at> gmail.com> wrote:
Some of you might know that I have been pushing hard to deliver Hana with the next Boost release. I have even taken the (soft) engagement to do so at CppCon in last September.
However, due to some time constraints, it is now clear that Hana will not be included in Boost 1.60.0, the limit for new libraries being yesterday. I hoped really hard to make it in time for Boost 1.60.0, but the closing of the release branch ~1 month before the release date got me by surprise.
Thanks for being understanding of the release process We'll (i.e. I) try to make the release schedule more prominent to curtail such surprises in the future.
No problem. I consider it my fault I missed the deadline.
As a side note, given my previous announcements, some users might find it strange not to see Hana as part of 1.60.0. Hence, I wonder whether it would be possible to include a short note with a link to this message somewhere in the release notes for 1.60.0?
Definitely.. Just submit a PR for the release notes < https://github.com/boostorg/website/blob/master/feed/history/boost_1_60_0.qbk>. Best place would be to add a section right before the "[section Compilers Tested]".
Thanks a lot! I just submitted a PR[1], but I feel kinda bad adding a whole section just for announcing the deferral of Hana's release. Let's discuss this on GitHub. Regards, Louis [1]: https://github.com/boostorg/website/pull/108 -- View this message in context: http://boost.2283326.n4.nabble.com/Hana-Postponing-release-to-1-61-0-tp46811... Sent from the Boost - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 05:43:53PM +0000, Louis Dionne wrote:
Hi,
Some of you might know that I have been pushing hard to deliver Hana with the next Boost release. I have even taken the (soft) engagement to do so at CppCon in last September.
However, due to some time constraints, it is now clear that Hana will not be included in Boost 1.60.0, the limit for new libraries being yesterday. I hoped really hard to make it in time for Boost 1.60.0, but the closing of the release branch ~1 month before the release date got me by surprise.
All in all, this is not too bad since there are still a couple issues that must be addressed, and I believe that taking more time to address them properly will be beneficial to the community in the long term. Also, while I really wanted to make Hana available to the wider community ASAP, I do not think waiting 3 more months will be very harmful. Given the current level of C++14 support in compilers, only people on Clang >= 3.5 would have been able to use Hana, and I do not think this represents such a huge amount of potential users.
Hi Louis, Ubuntu 15.10 is using gcc-5.2 as the default compiler. So there will be a lot of folks now able to use Hana without maintaining their own tool chain. Even so, I concur targeting the 1.61.0 release is no big deal in the big scheme of things. I intend to try out Hana and a few more months wait isn't an issue. Karen
As a side note, given my previous announcements, some users might find it strange not to see Hana as part of 1.60.0. Hence, I wonder whether it would be possible to include a short note with a link to this message somewhere in the release notes for 1.60.0?
Regards, Louis
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Karen Shaeffer <shaeffer <at> neuralscape.com> writes:
Hi Louis,
Ubuntu 15.10 is using gcc-5.2 as the default compiler. So there will be a lot of folks now able to use Hana without maintaining their own tool chain. Even so, I concur targeting the 1.61.0 release is no big deal in the big scheme of things.
I intend to try out Hana and a few more months wait isn't an issue.
Karen, Thanks for your interest in Hana! However, GCC 5.2 unfortunately does not support Hana because of some C++14-related bugs. Hopefully 5.3 will fix these, but the ball is in their court. Regards, Louis
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