On 3/21/06 5:59 PM, "Joel de Guzman" <joel@boost-consulting.com> wrote:

David Abrahams wrote:

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Joel de Guzman <joel@boost-consulting.com> writes:

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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 02:04:02 +0800 Reply-To: boost@lists.boost.org

Daryle Walker wrote:

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[I've added the main Boost list to this response so the MPL guys can see it.]

On 3/16/06 5:46 AM, "Joel de Guzman" <joel@boost-consulting.com> wrote:

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In the link I presented a while ago (http://snipurl.com/no8s), you might have noticed that the headings are clickable. Headings now link to itself. Again, this is borrowed from the MPL docs. This allows you to right click and copy the URL, for example (especially useful in deeply nested sections). You know where you are, anywhere.

So my final advice is to remove this mis-feature, and have the MPL docs purge it too.

Good points! Thanks for taking the trouble to explain in detail. Makes perfect sense, IMO.

Not to me. Despite what Daryle says, the feature hurts nobody (or at least he hasn't explained why it hurts anyone), and once you discover it's there, it's very useful. If there were a more explicit way to implement those links without interfering with presentation, I might go for it, but I don't have any brilliant ideas and nobody else has offered any so for now, that's the best we can do.

It is very useful indeed. I can attest to that. It's very useful for me when I have to provide someone with information. I can simply right click and grab the URL of the specific section I wish to share. The alternative would be to go back to the table of contents and grab the link there. Two more clicks away, and possibly error prone (I have to verify that what I grabbed is the correct section).

So... yes, Daryle, I'd like to hear if you have a better suggestion.

I think you and Dave confused yourselves. What you guys think I said had nothing to do with what I actually said. You think I'm complaining about links that jump to a sub-section anchor within the same page. I'm only talking about a link that jumps to the same page as a whole (no anchor in particular). Ironically, the page you gave as an example, <http://snipurl.com/no8s>, only has the self-whole-page link I actually complained about, and zero instances of the cross-section links you thought I was complaining about. Whoever snipped my full explanation away did a big disservice. I thought that maybe I didn't make the distinction clear, but I realize that I shouldn't have to make the distinction at all. The distinction is important, but the profiled page only has a self-whole-page link and no cross-section links, so possibility never entered my mind. I have no idea how you and Dave presumed that cross-section links were my focus. [Aside: if my impromptu terms "self-whole-page link" and "cross-section links" confuse you, here's an example. In file "my_page.html": <!-- ... --> <!-- This is a self-whole-page link --> <p>This <a href="my_page.html">link</a> uselessly reloads the current page.</p> <!-- These are cross-section links --> <h2 id="contents">Contents</h2> <p><a href="#text1">Text 1</a></p> <h2 id="text1">Text 1</h2> <p>Go back to <a href="#contents">contents</a>.</p> <!-- ... --> ] -- Daryle Walker Mac, Internet, and Video Game Junkie darylew AT hotmail DOT com