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-----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Thomas Matelich OpenSourceLibrary]
Sounds like a wiki page to me.
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 08:29:17 -0800, Robert Ramey <ramey@rrsd.com> wrote:
I would like to see this idea taken a little bit further.
I would like a place where users of boost can add a line describing:
name organization application which libraries they use general comments.
This would be very helpful feedback as to what is getting used by whom for what purpose. It would be useful to library authors to get a sense of what is being used. It would be very useful to people who are considering downloading boost and want to know what parts have been found useful to other people.
Think of it as "boost" marketing.
Robert Ramey
[Brian Braatz Writes:] I propose if it becomes a wiki- that there is a LINK to it on the MAIN page

Brian Braatz wrote:
I propose if it becomes a wiki- that there is a LINK to it on the MAIN page
Presumably if it's not on the main site it would be a page on the existing Wiki, which is already referenced on the main page, under Unofficial Branch Sites. There is also a plan to upgrade the Wiki to "official" status. Jonathan

On Mar 3, 2005, at 2:48 PM, Jonathan Turkanis wrote:
Brian Braatz wrote:
I propose if it becomes a wiki- that there is a LINK to it on the MAIN page
Presumably if it's not on the main site it would be a page on the existing Wiki, which is already referenced on the main page, under Unofficial Branch Sites. There is also a plan to upgrade the Wiki to "official" status.
I think if we're going to do this (and I think we should), I'd rather it be a real page on the web site and not a Wiki page. Having it as a real page gives it more credibility and visibility. Doug

There are a couple of reasons a wiki page might not be the best choice. a) too easily hackable b) I very much like the idea of getting some rough statistics. e.g. how many people use library x. This presume data with some sort of simple structure. Robert Ramey Brian Braatz wrote:
-----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Thomas Matelich OpenSourceLibrary]
Sounds like a wiki page to me.

On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 12:25:30 -0800, Robert Ramey wrote
There are a couple of reasons a wiki page might not be the best choice.
a) too easily hackable b) I very much like the idea of getting some rough statistics. e.g. how many people use library x. This presume data with some sort of simple structure.
Here's a couple thoughts. First off, the need for this was brought up at OOPSLA. People really like to see a list of users when evaluating if they are going to use a new open source tool. This is a very common feature of open source projects. So I think we really need to find a way to do this. As an example: http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/ACE-users.html As for how to gather the information, I think there needs to be 2 phases. Phase 1 would be a 'logo like' campaign to gather up current users. We can use the wiki/mail list and whatever tools we have available to gather the information. Publish a request on comp.lang.c++, etc. From this, I'll volunteer to collate the list and create a fixed web page we can incorporate into the main Boost web site. Phase 2 would be to come up with a way to maintain this. We could use a wiki page or perhaps a small web form to gather up information. This might be a simple php script that takes the information and updates the wiki or sends me email to add the information to the site. Periodically we would gather these up and add them in. Actually now that I've written it, it seems like designing the form should be the first step... Jeff

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On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 12:25:30 -0800, Robert Ramey wrote
There are a couple of reasons a wiki page might not be the best choice.
a) too easily hackable b) I very much like the idea of getting some rough statistics. e.g. how many people use library x. This presume data with some sort of simple structure.
Here's a couple thoughts. First off, the need for this was brought up at OOPSLA. People really like to see a list of users when evaluating if they are going to use a new open source tool. This is a very common feature of open source projects. So I think we really need to find a way to do this. As an example:
http://www.cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/ACE-users.html
As for how to gather the information, I think there needs to be 2 phases. Phase 1 would be a 'logo like' campaign to gather up current users. We can use the wiki/mail list and whatever tools we have available to gather the information. Publish a request on comp.lang.c++, etc. From this, I'll volunteer to collate the list and create a fixed web page we can incorporate into the main Boost web site.
Phase 2 would be to come up with a way to maintain this. We could use a wiki page or perhaps a small web form to gather up information. This might be a simple php script that takes the information and updates the wiki or sends me email to add the information to the site. Periodically we would gather these up and add them in.
Actually now that I've written it, it seems like designing the form should be the first step...
I suppose you all have been considering the following as part of the idea, but FWIW, allowing users to register a notification email will give us a mean to broadcast, for example, an important change that would affect existing code. Fernando Cacciola

On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 09:46:15AM -0300, Fernando Cacciola wrote:
I suppose you all have been considering the following as part of the idea, but FWIW, allowing users to register a notification email will give us a mean to broadcast, for example, an important change that would affect existing code.
Can't they already subscribe to Boost announce, and when a release is announced, check the release notes to find out what has changed? I don't think a new channel that has to be managed is needed. jon

What I sort have had in mind is really simple a) a web form which invokes includes boxes to fill in/checkoff etc. b) a submit button which invokes a cgi script c) which adds one line of comma delimited text to a history file c) another page or two to display statistics on this file. Robert Ramey Robert Ramey wrote:
There are a couple of reasons a wiki page might not be the best choice.
a) too easily hackable b) I very much like the idea of getting some rough statistics. e.g. how many people use library x. This presume data with some sort of simple structure.
Robert Ramey
Brian Braatz wrote:
-----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Thomas Matelich OpenSourceLibrary]
Sounds like a wiki page to me.
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Brian Braatz
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Douglas Gregor
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Fernando Cacciola
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Jeff Garland
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Jonathan Turkanis
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Jonathan Wakely
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Robert Ramey