Recently I've been getting anti-spam challenge-response emails from some subcribers on the Boost list. Personally I find such emails on a public list rude. Do people expect everyone on the list to register onto their respective anti-spam filters? I for one won't. It just means that person will never get many of the communications going on in the list. Since I'm now filtering email through Google, most likely I'll just mark such emails as SPAM and eventually the persons will never see Boost email again. But that sounds rude on my part. Any suggestions? -- -- Grafik - Don't Assume Anything -- Redshift Software, Inc. - http://redshift-software.com -- rrivera/acm.org - grafik/redshift-software.com -- 102708583/icq - grafikrobot/aim - grafikrobot/yahoo
Rene Rivera wrote:
Recently I've been getting anti-spam challenge-response emails from some subcribers on the Boost list. Personally I find such emails on a public list rude. Do people expect everyone on the list to register onto their respective anti-spam filters? I for one won't. It just means that person will never get many of the communications going on in the list. Since I'm now filtering email through Google, most likely I'll just mark such emails as SPAM and eventually the persons will never see Boost email again. But that sounds rude on my part.
Any suggestions?
I think your approach is fair. It's the subscriber's responsibility not to bother the mailing list with anti-spam challenges or vacation notices. I suggest we add that to the discussion policy document. Perhaps, we should also add it to the welcome-to-the-list message. Yes, I do realize that this might cause some extra hassle for the subscriber because the subscriber might have to sort these issues out with his IT admin. However, it's the subscriber's IT administrator who caused the problem in the first place. I also suggest subscribers who repeatedly violate that part of the policy get unsubscribed. Regards, m Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
Martin Wille wrote:
Rene Rivera wrote:
Recently I've been getting anti-spam challenge-response emails from some subcribers on the Boost list. Personally I find such emails on a public list rude. Do people expect everyone on the list to register onto their respective anti-spam filters? I for one won't. It just means that person will never get many of the communications going on in the list. Since I'm now filtering email through Google, most likely I'll just mark such emails as SPAM and eventually the persons will never see Boost email again. But that sounds rude on my part.
Any suggestions?
I think your approach is fair.
It's the subscriber's responsibility not to bother the mailing list with anti-spam challenges or vacation notices.
I suggest we add that to the discussion policy document. Perhaps, we should also add it to the welcome-to-the-list message.
Agreed, but...
Yes, I do realize that this might cause some extra hassle for the subscriber because the subscriber might have to sort these issues out with his IT admin. However, it's the subscriber's IT administrator who caused the problem in the first place.
Many people won't be able to do anything about this, it's a decision of their company, or university, or whatever. It's the same as with those ridiculous legal threats in the signature.
I also suggest subscribers who repeatedly violate that part of the policy get unsubscribed.
This would mean that subscribers would get banned without being able to somehow change the situation. Granted, they could use a private mail account or something similar, but this could not be possible as well. I think just ignoring those mails is good enough. Markus
Markus Schöpflin wrote:
Martin Wille wrote:
I also suggest subscribers who repeatedly violate that part of the policy get unsubscribed.
This would mean that subscribers would get banned without being able to somehow change the situation. Granted, they could use a private mail account or something similar, but this could not be possible as well.
I think just ignoring those mails is good enough.
If the anti-spam challenges get ignored then the subscribers won't recceive any messages from the list, either. Regards, m Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
| -----Original Message----- | From: boost-bounces@lists.boost.org | [mailto:boost-bounces@lists.boost.org] On Behalf Of Martin Wille | Sent: 27 June 2006 08:50 | To: boost@lists.boost.org | Subject: Re: [boost] Spam filter policy? | | Markus Schöpflin wrote: | > Martin Wille wrote: | | >> I also suggest subscribers who repeatedly violate that part of the | >> policy get unsubscribed. | > | > This would mean that subscribers would get banned without | being able to | > somehow change the situation. Granted, they could use a | private mail | > account or something similar, but this could not be | possible as well. | > | > I think just ignoring those mails is good enough. | | If the anti-spam challenges get ignored then the subscribers won't | recceive any messages from the list, either. It looked so kosher that I nearly clicked to reply, but then I hesitated, and finally I assumed that the challenge was a fishing device for my email address and didn't I didn't reply, and marked it as spam to Cloudmark. I note that Cloudmark then automatically marked other similar messages as spam, so I conclude that many other people have also come to the same conclusion and marked it as such. It MAY be well-intentioned, but I think it has already backfired on the sender. Paul --- Paul A Bristow Prizet Farmhouse, Kendal, Cumbria UK LA8 8AB +44 1539561830 & SMS, Mobile +44 7714 330204 & SMS pbristow@hetp.u-net.com
Martin Wille wrote:
Markus Schöpflin wrote:
Martin Wille wrote:
I also suggest subscribers who repeatedly violate that part of the policy get unsubscribed. This would mean that subscribers would get banned without being able to somehow change the situation. Granted, they could use a private mail account or something similar, but this could not be possible as well.
I think just ignoring those mails is good enough.
If the anti-spam challenges get ignored then the subscribers won't recceive any messages from the list, either.
You are right of course. I didn't think that far. And besides, there is always gmane which can be used to access the mailing list. Markus
Markus Schöpflin wrote:
Martin Wille wrote:
Rene Rivera wrote:
Recently I've been getting anti-spam challenge-response emails from some subcribers on the Boost list. Personally I find such emails on a public list rude. I also suggest subscribers who repeatedly violate that part of the policy get unsubscribed.
This would mean that subscribers would get banned without being able to somehow change the situation. Granted, they could use a private mail account or something similar, but this could not be possible as well.
I don't see why not. Anyone can set up a private email account. Perhaps an email can be sent out on subscription saying that you are not to post advertising to the list, including advertisements in your signature, and that offenders will be initially reminded of the rule, and eventually unsubscribed if they persist. This may seem unfair on individuals, but allowing this to get through to the list is unfair to all subscribers to the list. So this policy would be for the greater good. All mailing lists have rules, don't they? This one is not that harsh. Paul
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