The Open Source Initiative provides "Open Source" and "OSI Certified" logos we could use on the Boost home page. See http://www.opensource.org/trademark for the HTML markup and conditions of use. See http://www.opensource.org/trademarks/opensource and http://www.opensource.org/trademarks/osi-certified for the logos themselves, in various formats and sizes. Should we include one of the OSI logos on the web site's home page? Which one? I vote "yes", and prefer the "OSI Certified" logo. What do others think? --Beman
Beman Dawes wrote:
The Open Source Initiative provides "Open Source" and "OSI Certified" logos we could use on the Boost home page.
See http://www.opensource.org/trademark for the HTML markup and conditions of use.
See http://www.opensource.org/trademarks/opensource and http://www.opensource.org/trademarks/osi-certified for the logos themselves, in various formats and sizes.
Should we include one of the OSI logos on the web site's home page?
Yes +1
Which one?
Both? :-)
I vote "yes", and prefer the "OSI Certified" logo.
If we have to stick to one only, then yes that one. Can we modify the Boostbook stylesheets to put these in the footer automatically? John.
on Thu Feb 07 2008, "John Maddock" <john-AT-johnmaddock.co.uk> wrote:
Beman Dawes wrote:
The Open Source Initiative provides "Open Source" and "OSI Certified" logos we could use on the Boost home page.
See http://www.opensource.org/trademark for the HTML markup and conditions of use.
See http://www.opensource.org/trademarks/opensource and http://www.opensource.org/trademarks/osi-certified for the logos themselves, in various formats and sizes.
Should we include one of the OSI logos on the web site's home page?
Yes +1
+1
Which one?
Both? :-)
Might be a good idea, actually.
I vote "yes", and prefer the "OSI Certified" logo.
If we have to stick to one only, then yes that one.
Agreed.
Can we modify the Boostbook stylesheets to put these in the footer automatically?
Yes of course we can. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://boost-consulting.com
David Abrahams wrote:
on Thu Feb 07 2008, "John Maddock" <john-AT-johnmaddock.co.uk> wrote:
Beman Dawes wrote:
The Open Source Initiative provides "Open Source" and "OSI Certified" logos we could use on the Boost home page.
See http://www.opensource.org/trademark for the HTML markup and conditions of use.
See http://www.opensource.org/trademarks/opensource and http://www.opensource.org/trademarks/osi-certified for the logos themselves, in various formats and sizes.
Should we include one of the OSI logos on the web site's home page? Yes +1
+1
[-1] It would make more contextual sense to put that in the license page <http://beta.boost.org/users/license.html>. And adding a FAQ entry to explain the OSI certification.
Which one? Both? :-)
Might be a good idea, actually.
I vote "yes", and prefer the "OSI Certified" logo. If we have to stick to one only, then yes that one.
Agreed.
Can we modify the Boostbook stylesheets to put these in the footer automatically?
Yes of course we can.
Note that OSI "insist[s] and ask[s]" that the images be linked to their site. So including them in the docs would either go against their wishes/instructions or cause loading problems for off-line viewing. -- -- Grafik - Don't Assume Anything -- Redshift Software, Inc. - http://redshift-software.com -- rrivera/acm.org (msn) - grafik/redshift-software.com -- 102708583/icq - grafikrobot/aim,yahoo,skype,efnet,gmail
on Thu Feb 07 2008, Rene Rivera <grafikrobot-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
David Abrahams wrote:
on Thu Feb 07 2008, "John Maddock" <john-AT-johnmaddock.co.uk> wrote:
Beman Dawes wrote:
The Open Source Initiative provides "Open Source" and "OSI Certified" logos we could use on the Boost home page.
See http://www.opensource.org/trademark for the HTML markup and conditions of use.
See http://www.opensource.org/trademarks/opensource and http://www.opensource.org/trademarks/osi-certified for the logos themselves, in various formats and sizes.
Should we include one of the OSI logos on the web site's home page? Yes +1
+1
[-1]
It would make more contextual sense to put that in the license page <http://beta.boost.org/users/license.html>. And adding a FAQ entry to explain the OSI certification.
Which one? Both? :-)
Might be a good idea, actually.
I vote "yes", and prefer the "OSI Certified" logo. If we have to stick to one only, then yes that one.
Agreed.
Can we modify the Boostbook stylesheets to put these in the footer automatically?
Yes of course we can.
Note that OSI "insist[s] and ask[s]" that the images be linked to their site. So including them in the docs would either go against their wishes/instructions or cause loading problems for off-line viewing.
I don't think the problems caused would be serious enough to worry about. If there's no image available, you get a box that says "OSI Approved." -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://boost-consulting.com
David Abrahams wrote:
on Thu Feb 07 2008, Rene Rivera <grafikrobot-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
...
Note that OSI "insist[s] and ask[s]" that the images be linked to their site. So including them in the docs would either go against their wishes/instructions or cause loading problems for off-line viewing.
I don't think the problems caused would be serious enough to worry about. If there's no image available, you get a box that says "OSI Approved."
I think Dave is right. It is easy enough to try it out to see if the off-line appearance is acceptable. --Beman
Beman Dawes wrote:
David Abrahams wrote:
on Thu Feb 07 2008, Rene Rivera <grafikrobot-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
...
Note that OSI "insist[s] and ask[s]" that the images be linked to their site. So including them in the docs would either go against their wishes/instructions or cause loading problems for off-line viewing. I don't think the problems caused would be serious enough to worry about. If there's no image available, you get a box that says "OSI Approved."
I think Dave is right. It is easy enough to try it out to see if the off-line appearance is acceptable.
--Beman
-1 I think this is also a privacy issue. I for one don't want my web browser to fetch an image from the OSI server every time I open the off-line boost documentation. Stephan
On Feb 8, 2008 7:45 AM, Stephan Tolksdorf <andorxor@gmx.de> wrote:
I think this is also a privacy issue. I for one don't want my web browser to fetch an image from the OSI server every time I open the off-line boost documentation.
I understood it as the image should be a link to their website (a href=...) rather than the image needs to be the one hosted on their website (img src=...), which shouldn't be an issue.
Scott McMurray wrote:
On Feb 8, 2008 7:45 AM, Stephan Tolksdorf <andorxor@gmx.de> wrote:
I think this is also a privacy issue. I for one don't want my web browser to fetch an image from the OSI server every time I open the off-line boost documentation.
I understood it as the image should be a link to their website (a href=...) rather than the image needs to be the one hosted on their website (img src=...), which shouldn't be an issue.
Not as I understand it. To quote OSI:
We insist and ask that you link to the images of your choice instead of saving it on your own server; this enables us to update the marks as their legal status evolves.
-- -- Grafik - Don't Assume Anything -- Redshift Software, Inc. - http://redshift-software.com -- rrivera/acm.org (msn) - grafik/redshift-software.com -- 102708583/icq - grafikrobot/aim,yahoo,skype,efnet,gmail
On Feb 8, 2008 2:15 PM, Rene Rivera <grafikrobot@gmail.com> wrote:
Not as I understand it. To quote OSI:
We insist and ask that you link to the images of your choice instead of saving it on your own server; this enables us to update the marks as their legal status evolves.
Thanks for clarifying. "Insist and ask" is odd terminology, though...
on Fri Feb 08 2008, Stephan Tolksdorf <andorxor-AT-gmx.de> wrote:
Beman Dawes wrote:
David Abrahams wrote:
on Thu Feb 07 2008, Rene Rivera <grafikrobot-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
...
Note that OSI "insist[s] and ask[s]" that the images be linked to their site. So including them in the docs would either go against their wishes/instructions or cause loading problems for off-line viewing. I don't think the problems caused would be serious enough to worry about. If there's no image available, you get a box that says "OSI Approved."
I think Dave is right. It is easy enough to try it out to see if the off-line appearance is acceptable.
--Beman
-1
I think this is also a privacy issue. I for one don't want my web browser to fetch an image from the OSI server every time I open the off-line boost documentation.
I understand why you might not want that, but how is it a privacy issue? -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://boost-consulting.com
David Abrahams wrote:
on Fri Feb 08 2008, Stephan Tolksdorf <andorxor-AT-gmx.de> wrote:
Beman Dawes wrote:
David Abrahams wrote:
on Thu Feb 07 2008, Rene Rivera <grafikrobot-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
...
Note that OSI "insist[s] and ask[s]" that the images be linked to their site. So including them in the docs would either go against their wishes/instructions or cause loading problems for off-line viewing. I don't think the problems caused would be serious enough to worry about. If there's no image available, you get a box that says "OSI Approved." I think Dave is right. It is easy enough to try it out to see if the off-line appearance is acceptable.
--Beman -1
I think this is also a privacy issue. I for one don't want my web browser to fetch an image from the OSI server every time I open the off-line boost documentation.
I understand why you might not want that, but how is it a privacy issue?
It's a privacy issue because, depending on my browser configuration, someone else might be able to retrace when and for how long I read the Boost documentation. Obviously that data is not as sensitive as my Google search history, but still I don't see why I need to leave behind a digital trail of my activity without a reason. Stephan
on Mon Feb 11 2008, Stephan Tolksdorf <andorxor-AT-gmx.de> wrote:
David Abrahams wrote:
on Fri Feb 08 2008, Stephan Tolksdorf <andorxor-AT-gmx.de> wrote:
Beman Dawes wrote:
David Abrahams wrote:
on Thu Feb 07 2008, Rene Rivera <grafikrobot-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
...
Note that OSI "insist[s] and ask[s]" that the images be linked to their site. So including them in the docs would either go against their wishes/instructions or cause loading problems for off-line viewing. I don't think the problems caused would be serious enough to worry about. If there's no image available, you get a box that says "OSI Approved." I think Dave is right. It is easy enough to try it out to see if the off-line appearance is acceptable.
--Beman -1
I think this is also a privacy issue. I for one don't want my web browser to fetch an image from the OSI server every time I open the off-line boost documentation.
I understand why you might not want that, but how is it a privacy issue?
It's a privacy issue because, depending on my browser configuration, someone else might be able to retrace when and for how long I read the Boost documentation. Obviously that data is not as sensitive as my Google search history, but still I don't see why I need to leave behind a digital trail of my activity without a reason.
I can't imagine using the web at all while being conscious of the source URL of every embedded image, and I'm not sure it's practical to cater to someone who tries to do it. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://boost-consulting.com
+1 On Feb 13, 2008 8:08 PM, David Abrahams <dave@boost-consulting.com> wrote:
on Mon Feb 11 2008, Stephan Tolksdorf <andorxor-AT-gmx.de> wrote:
on Fri Feb 08 2008, Stephan Tolksdorf <andorxor-AT-gmx.de> wrote:
Beman Dawes wrote:
David Abrahams wrote:
on Thu Feb 07 2008, Rene Rivera <grafikrobot-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
...
> Note that OSI "insist[s] and ask[s]" that the images be linked to
David Abrahams wrote: their
> site. So including them in the docs would either go against their > wishes/instructions or cause loading problems for off-line viewing. I don't think the problems caused would be serious enough to worry about. If there's no image available, you get a box that says "OSI Approved." I think Dave is right. It is easy enough to try it out to see if the off-line appearance is acceptable.
--Beman -1
I think this is also a privacy issue. I for one don't want my web browser to fetch an image from the OSI server every time I open the off-line boost documentation.
I understand why you might not want that, but how is it a privacy issue?
It's a privacy issue because, depending on my browser configuration, someone else might be able to retrace when and for how long I read the Boost documentation. Obviously that data is not as sensitive as my Google search history, but still I don't see why I need to leave behind a digital trail of my activity without a reason.
I can't imagine using the web at all while being conscious of the source URL of every embedded image, and I'm not sure it's practical to cater to someone who tries to do it.
-- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://boost-consulting.com
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On Thursday 14 February 2008 00:08:30 David Abrahams wrote:
on Mon Feb 11 2008, Stephan Tolksdorf <andorxor-AT-gmx.de> wrote:
It's a privacy issue because, depending on my browser configuration, someone else might be able to retrace when and for how long I read the Boost documentation. Obviously that data is not as sensitive as my Google search history, but still I don't see why I need to leave behind a digital trail of my activity without a reason.
I can't imagine using the web at all while being conscious of the source URL of every embedded image, and I'm not sure it's practical to cater to someone who tries to do it.
That was one of the points of trying to read the docs offline. Of course if you go online you expect some out of control image fetching and tracking (which is why I would recommend using "tor" and ad blockers) but when you read it offline you don't really expect someone on some server having in their logs the pages you read and when. Although a better solution is the "Offline mode" option for any popular browser, to make sure no online access happens. -- Mihai RUSU Email: dizzy@roedu.net "Linux is obsolete" -- AST
dizzy wrote:
On Thursday 14 February 2008 00:08:30 David Abrahams wrote:
on Mon Feb 11 2008, Stephan Tolksdorf <andorxor-AT-gmx.de> wrote:
It's a privacy issue because, depending on my browser configuration, someone else might be able to retrace when and for how long I read the Boost documentation. Obviously that data is not as sensitive as my Google search history, but still I don't see why I need to leave behind a digital trail of my activity without a reason. I can't imagine using the web at all while being conscious of the source URL of every embedded image, and I'm not sure it's practical to cater to someone who tries to do it.
That was one of the points of trying to read the docs offline. Of course if you go online you expect some out of control image fetching and tracking (which is why I would recommend using "tor" and ad blockers) but when you read it offline you don't really expect someone on some server having in their logs the pages you read and when.
+1. As a user I'd like offline docs to be really offline.
Beman Dawes wrote:
The Open Source Initiative provides "Open Source" and "OSI Certified" logos we could use on the Boost home page.
See http://www.opensource.org/trademark for the HTML markup and conditions of use.
See http://www.opensource.org/trademarks/opensource and http://www.opensource.org/trademarks/osi-certified for the logos themselves, in various formats and sizes.
Should we include one of the OSI logos on the web site's home page?
Which one?
I vote "yes", and prefer the "OSI Certified" logo.
Careful over there. Keep in mind that OSI's "trademark" logos infringe on GNU's copyleft logo. :-) regards, alexander.
-----Original Message----- From: boost-bounces@lists.boost.org [mailto:boost-bounces@lists.boost.org] On Behalf Of Beman Dawes Sent: 07 February 2008 13:04 To: Boost mailing list Subject: [boost] OSI logo?
The Open Source Initiative provides "Open Source" and "OSI Certified" logos we could use on the Boost home page.
See http://www.opensource.org/trademark for the HTML markup and conditions of use.
See http://www.opensource.org/trademarks/opensource and http://www.opensource.org/trademarks/osi-certified for the logos themselves, in various formats and sizes.
Should we include one of the OSI logos on the web site's home page?
Which one?
I vote "yes", and prefer the "OSI Certified" logo.
What do others think?
Agree both. Paul --- Paul A Bristow Prizet Farmhouse, Kendal, Cumbria UK LA8 8AB +44 1539561830 & SMS, Mobile +44 7714 330204 & SMS pbristow@hetp.u-net.com
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