Re: [boost] Re: Boost to the rescue
----- Mensaje original ----- De: David Abrahams <dave@boost-consulting.com> Fecha: Miércoles, Abril 27, 2005 11:05 pm Asunto: [boost] Re: Boost to the rescue
"JOAQUIN LOPEZ MU?Z" <joaquin@tid.es> writes:
* As for #3 and #4, I've got this idea round my head that Boost would benefit of a "community site" where people of various expertise levels could mingle together, post Boost-related articles, etc. Something like CodeProject or Gamedev, which have a less intimidating appearance than www.boost.org. Some months ago I asked for a Boost-related forum in CodeProject, to no avail :(
Something wrong with boost-users?
There *must* be something wrong with it: Consider the (developer list)/(user list) posting ratio, around 10:1 --I guess (I hope) that the actual developer/user ratio is much lower than that. So, it seems like somehow the list is not so popular. Some hypotheses as of why: * Posting to and scanning a mailing list is not an impulsive action, and takes some will from the part of the poster. * The list could feel a little imposing, as most of the time it is the lib's author herself who responds. Somehow this formality prevents casual chatting, experience sharing etc. I'd hope most of the support to be provided by other users, not the authors. * Response time is not as fast as with a forum. * The looks ain't sexy. * Boost users don't really have that many problems to consult about :)
If so, I'd be happy to set up a forum at boost-consulting.com, if we can decide on the right software.
A couple of seemingly popular free bulletin packages are YaBB and MyBulletinBoard. More ambitious community packages are Plone (which has about anything) and Postnuke: these two latter could serve as the basis for a fuller community site. Joaquín M López Muñoz Telefóinca, Investigación y Desarrollo
"JOAQUIN LOPEZ MU?Z" <joaquin@tid.es> writes:
If so, I'd be happy to set up a forum at boost-consulting.com, if we can decide on the right software.
A couple of seemingly popular free bulletin packages are YaBB and MyBulletinBoard. More ambitious community packages are Plone (which has about anything) and Postnuke: these two latter could serve as the basis for a fuller community site.
Someone will have to build a consensus that tell me what to do; I don't know anything about these. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com
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"JOAQUIN LOPEZ MU?Z" <joaquin@tid.es> writes:
If so, I'd be happy to set up a forum at boost-consulting.com, if we can decide on the right software.
A couple of seemingly popular free bulletin packages are YaBB and MyBulletinBoard. More ambitious community packages are Plone (which has about anything) and Postnuke: these two latter could serve as the basis for a fuller community site.
Someone will have to build a consensus that tell me what to do; I don't know anything about these.
FWIW I definitely agree that boost-users is far from a "boost community site". We seldom see people talking about their experiences with boost in any of our list, yet in most community sites that's usual. Boost-users is "just" a maliling list and can't have "structure" (we would have to define what structure we want but that's another issue). For example, a per-library open blog, etc, etc... A true community site can offer much more to the community than a mailing list. There is also the "topic" issue: while lists have a topic (and so things that are off topic are never exposed or put down by moderators), a community is often more tolerant about that.. community interests usually revolves around a thing but doesn't focus only on it. IOW, "boost" as a community could gather developers commonly intereseted in good std C++ programming practices... the boost "libraries" would be the pratical result of that, but not the only thing around boost, as it is now. In none of the list I would talk about my experiences with the .NET GC and the idioms that result from that; yet in a C++ community site I would, drawing of course a connection with std C++, C++0x and the CLR/C++ fusion. This very thread (the start of it at least) is the kind of stuff that would be much better placed in a community site (and it would be much visible there) IMO, right now the only "boost community" is the developers crowd. It is clear from this thread that boost is a lot less visible than it should be. I bet there are a *lot* of C++ programmers out there getting stuff from the CodeProject and perhaps SourceForge at large just because they don't know about boost and if they occasionally hit the site page they are scared away. If that situation changed our work as boost developers would have a far greater impact; and I think a community site a la CodeProject would help with boost visibility a lot. Now of course such a thing requires people to work on it; but it also requires some form of support from boost "officials". It might be worth adding a top post in the users list to catch the attention of potential volunteers and generate some concrete ideas about the site. Best Fernando Cacciola
"Fernando Cacciola" <fernando_cacciola@hotmail.com> writes:
Now of course such a thing requires people to work on it; but it also requires some form of support from boost "officials".
What form?
It might be worth adding a top post in the users list to catch the attention of potential volunteers and generate some concrete ideas about the site.
Go for it! -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com
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"Fernando Cacciola" <fernando_cacciola@hotmail.com> writes:
Now of course such a thing requires people to work on it; but it also requires some form of support from boost "officials".
What form? Ž Hmmm, good question... On second thought, it doesn't require "pre" support from anyone. Better let the idea roll and we'll see then.
It might be worth adding a top post in the users list to catch the attention of potential volunteers and generate some concrete ideas about the site.
Go for it!
OK Fernando Cacciola
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