The subject of a code of conduct has come up a few times, and I think it is worth having a discussion. I hope that everyone will find the following statements uncontroversial: 1. Social spaces have rules, either stated or implied 2. Rules need to state clearly what is allowed and what is disallowed, so that people who may be interested in joining can determine if the culture is the right fit. 3. Rules need to be enforced 4. The Boost mailing lists already have rules 5. The rules for the mailing list are outdated 6. The rules for the mailing list are not particularly visible There is value in refreshing the rules for the Boost mailing list, which are currently described here: https://www.boost.org/community/policy.html I think we should do the following: * Update the rules to be relevant for 2024 * Make the rules visible on the sign-up and administration page for the mailing lists (at https://lists.boost.org) * Consider renaming the rules to something other than "Boost Discussion Policy" * Send a periodic announcement to the mailing lists reminding everyone of the rules. These could be timed to coincide with the releases (three times per year) The community needs to discuss the things above and come to a consensus. And we need to make a final decision on what the changes will look like given the feedback. I don't know that the review process is right for this, because it will likely be an iterative process where we all work on a "shared document" to make edits. The nice thing is that we don't need to wait for the outcome of the Boost Asset Stewardship review to do this, because the content of the website and mailing lists is not controlled by the Boost Foundation, the C++ Alliance, or the proposed Steering Committee. And even before the need to decide which revision of the updated rules will be accepted by the project, discussion can take place with no governing body. There is one hiccup though. Where do we discuss this? The mailing list is one possibility. However, anyone who joins the mailing list late, or is not a member of the mailing list, has the problem that the visibility of the discussion is not very great. They would have to use the archives, and the archives are not very pleasant. One cannot see the entire discussion as a single page. And if someone changes the subject, then new related threads of conversation become more difficult to find. And at the end of the day, our workflow requires GitHub issues to triage and assign work items to staff. Therefore, here is a GitHub issue for this. Everyone can feel free to participate in a discussion there. Alternatively, if you feel that the mailing list is a better place, then reply to this post and have a discussion here. There might be two discussions. Or one. Or none (hopefully not). And when we are done we can compare the pros and cons of GItHub issues versus the mailing list. There could be value here. This is the issue: https://github.com/boostorg/website-v2/issues/1269 What do you think? Thanks
On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 10:23 AM Vinnie Falco via Boost < boost@lists.boost.org> wrote:
The subject of a code of conduct has come up a few times, and I think it is worth having a discussion. I hope that everyone will find the following statements uncontroversial: ...
I think we should do the following: ... This is an amazing idea. Thank you for rolling with it, Vinnie. - Christian
On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 10:22 AM Vinnie Falco
I have copied the website page into this Google Doc which is editable by anyone: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tPqZkSoThVKNYCqILzPsgQzlRGdM3FCYJK8fxwiF... Stakeholders who are interested in this should feel free to add comments to the side, or adjust the wording if you think it is warranted. Maybe start with comments first, and we can discuss them on the side before making the changes. Thanks
On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 2:04 PM Vinnie Falco via Boost
I have copied the website page into this Google Doc which is editable by anyone:
I would prefer people comment on the work-in-progress doc I created here: https://gist.github.com/grafikrobot/86e6de40a8b0f17a6a940b7fa6a00ebf As Google Docs is not something everyone has. And I'vé already addressed some of the issues mentioned. -- -- René Ferdinand Rivera Morell -- Don't Assume Anything -- No Supone Nada -- Robot Dreams - http://robot-dreams.net
On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 12:17 PM René Ferdinand Rivera Morell via Boost < boost@lists.boost.org> wrote:
I would prefer people comment on the work-in-progress doc I created here: < https://gist.github.com/grafikrobot/86e6de40a8b0f17a6a940b7fa6a00ebf>
I just learned that you can comment on gists...
As Google Docs is not something everyone has. And I'vé already addressed some of the issues mentioned.
It opens in the browser though? Anyway...yeah, we can try the gist. Thanks
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Christian Mazakas
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René Ferdinand Rivera Morell
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Vinnie Falco