Jarrad Waterloo wrote:

Please do elaborate on the following: "I wrap my session up by revealing a few hidden gems in Boost for manipulating Unicode text: iterators that do on-the-fly translation between encodings

See boost/regex/pending/unicode_iterator.hpp , and a UTF-8 codecvt facet for reading and writing UTF-8

IOStreams."

See boost\detail\utf8_codecvt_facet.hpp These are implementation details of other libraries, which is why I characterized them as "hidden gems". You gotta dig for 'em. ;-) -- Eric Niebler Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com

On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 20:47 +0200, Alexander Terekhov wrote:

Eric Niebler wrote:

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My impressions of the first annual Boost Conference are now online at The C++ Source for your reading pleasure. Enjoy!

http://www.artima.com/cppsource/boost_con_07.html

"Boost may in the near future join the Software Freedom Conservancy, an umbrella organization of Free and Open Source Software projects. The Conservancy gives free financial and administrative services to its members..."

One just wonders how "free financial and administrative services" can transform to: (visit guidestar.org) [snip entirely reasonable compensation] -- SOFTWARE FREEDOM LAW CENTER, INC. (visit guidestar.org)

The SFLC is actually separate from the Software Freedom Conservancy, although they are related. Both SFLC and the Conservancy write grants and take donations for the administrative part, so that they can aid open-source software projects. I suspect Eben's involvement is precisely the reason they can do this.

(Eben's SFLC compensated underlings aside for a moment) and whether you (boost moderators & Co. so to speak) would be able to spend more for "future events such as BoostCon, and also to pay for much needed infrastructure" without Eben's SFLC involvement.

What's the problem to take donations without SFLC?

To do it legitimately is a paperwork nightmare; to do it any other way is unconscionable. - Doug

On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 23:12 +0200, Alexander Terekhov wrote:

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To do it legitimately is a paperwork nightmare;

But to do it illegitimately is not an option, oder?

Suppose I can pay-pal donate something to somewhat free you from that paperwork nightmare. There's a link? Just try it.

Donate to whom? Me? David Abrahams? Beman Dawes? John Maddock? There is no entity called "Boost"; we're a community of individuals. That works really well until someone tries to donate money to Boost or tries to sue Boost. Then, some individual has to take responsibility. Donating to me means I need to pay taxes on that donation. To donate to "Boost", we need a legal entity called "Boost", and that means a non-profit. Non-profits require paperwork, accounting, board members---all of the things we just don't have time for. The Conservancy gives us non-profit status without the tedious parts of creating and maintaining a non-profit organization. I'm done discussing this now. There will be an announcement in the future. - Doug

Alexander Terekhov wrote:

Douglas Gregor wrote:

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On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 23:12 +0200, Alexander Terekhov wrote:

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To do it legitimately is a paperwork nightmare; But to do it illegitimately is not an option, oder?

Suppose I can pay-pal donate something to somewhat free you from that paperwork nightmare. There's a link? Just try it. Donate to whom? Me? David Abrahams? Beman Dawes? John Maddock?

I don't care. I can split it if you like. Play-pal addresses, please.

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There is no entity called "Boost"; we're a community of individuals. That works really well until someone tries to donate money to Boost or tries to sue Boost. Then, some individual has to take responsibility. Donating to me means I need to pay taxes on that donation.

To donate to "Boost", we need a legal entity called "Boost", and that means a non-profit.

Fine. See above (regarding boost non-profit infrastructure or some such).

Seriously -- we can't use a single person. For example, with Google SoC the organization gets a stipend, but we don't have a way to accept it unless we have a 'Boost' account somewhere.

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Non-profits require paperwork, accounting, board members---all of the things we just don't have time for.

Think of hiring someone. And tell us the price (the same goes for the infrastructure). So that one can arrange the scale of donations, so to speak.

At least one of the moderators have direct experience with this and indicated it's a huge job. Moreover, I've personally talked with the leaders of a number of open source projects that have their own non-profit and the clear advice was to avoid the 'do it yourself' approach if possible. BTW, the most common expenses projects associated with the Conservancy have are associated with conferences. To run one money is involved to reserve rooms and such. Indiana Univ. covered us this year, but we shouldn't count on that forever.

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The Conservancy

http://dartreview.com/archives/2005/04/08/intellectual_property_is_so_last_y...

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gives us non-profit status without the tedious parts of creating and maintaining a non-profit organization.

How much? The cost, I mean.

Zero, nada, nil, zip, none, 0. All donations made directly to Boost go into an account for Boost at absolutely no cost. There a NO fees taken out of the account, ever. I don't know how they afford Eben's salary, but I suspect it is thru donations to the Conservancy as a whole since there is no cost to member projects. Jeff