Re: [boost] New Logo Discussion
On 7/18/24 9:36 AM, René Ferdinand Rivera Morell wrote:
On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 6:50 PM Joel de Guzman via Boost
wrote: On 7/18/24 3:49 AM, René Ferdinand Rivera Morell via Boost wrote:
On 7/17/24 11:59 AM, Vinnie Falco via Boost wrote:
Hi. It is CppCon 2024 season, and the C++ Alliance is working on letting people know all the new and exciting things happening in Boost. We're doing this with Boost labeled conference shirts, and a beautiful brochure. You can see a draft of this promotional piece here (note: work in progress):
FWIW - I much prefer the current logo which was developed by community inclusive process with many submissions and designs. It wasn't. The logo picked by the community in that process was never used. What is currently used was the result of private design between
On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 2:42 PM Robert Ramey via Boost
wrote: the Boost Steering Committee and the artist that "won" that logo contest. That is not correct. I was one of the major proponents of that logo contest (if not spearheded it). And I am not a member of the Boost Steering Committee. That contest was public and was discussed in the Boost list. It is NOT a private design. Here's part of the discussion (I do not have time to search all): https://lists.boost.org/Archives/boost//2005/03/81416.php
You can see clearly I was asking for votes. I did not claim the logo contest was not community driven and resulted in a community choice. I would know, as I submitted 11 designs in that context. What I claimed is that the **current** logo was not chosen by a community process. As the **current** logo was NOT the winning logo. The winning logo (actually four) was a single, or trio, of stacked cards (see attached). And as you can see it is very different from what we have now.
I am confused. The winning logo is the beehive design by Zoltan Juhasz https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Boost.png I should know, I tallied the votes. I have no idea what that design you attached is. Regards, -- Joel de Guzman Cycfi Research, Inc.
On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 9:07 PM Joel de Guzman
I am confused. The winning logo is the beehive design by Zoltan Juhasz
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Boost.png
I should know, I tallied the votes.
I have no idea what that design you attached is.
What I attached is from the webarchive mirror of the logo contest web page.. https://web.archive.org/web/20050718000048/http://www.boost.org/more/logo_co.... Which clearly shows the winning logo. -- -- René Ferdinand Rivera Morell -- Don't Assume Anything -- No Supone Nada -- Robot Dreams - http://robot-dreams.net
On 7/18/24 10:11 AM, René Ferdinand Rivera Morell wrote:
I am confused. The winning logo is the beehive design by Zoltan Juhasz
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Boost.png
I should know, I tallied the votes.
I have no idea what that design you attached is. What I attached is from the webarchive mirror of the logo contest web
On Wed, Jul 17, 2024 at 9:07 PM Joel de Guzman
wrote: page.. https://web.archive.org/web/20050718000048/http://www.boost.org/more/logo_co.... Which clearly shows the winning logo.
OK. Now my memory has been refreshed. Zoltan Juhasz (the winner) was asked to design the beehive logo and indeed it was discussed privately by the Boost Moderators and me CC'd in the discussions. Thanks for clearing that up. FWIW, the active participants in the discussion were Beman Dawes, Dave Abrahams, Jeff Garland, John Maddock, me and the contest winner, Zoltan Juhasz who iterated over a few designs. Regards, -- Joel de Guzman Cycfi Research, Inc.
El 18/07/2024 a las 4:41, Joel de Guzman via Boost escribió:
OK. Now my memory has been refreshed. Zoltan Juhasz (the winner) was asked to design the beehive logo and indeed it was discussed privately by the Boost Moderators and me CC'd in the discussions. Thanks for clearing that up.
FWIW, the active participants in the discussion were Beman Dawes, Dave Abrahams, Jeff Garland, John Maddock, me and the contest winner, Zoltan Juhasz who iterated over a few designs.
You can see the "public" process info in Wayback Machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20050718000048/http://www.boost.org/more/logo_co... * * * * * * It's a bit strange: "This is a tough decision. Based on the IRV program the winner is supposed to be Simeon Nasilowski, entry number 67. However, entry 67 clearly fails to meet one of the requirements: The logo must be free of any copyright or other intellectual property claims. It was noted by Eric Niebler, and confirmed by others that entry 67 has a glaring similarity to the marketing imagery of Visual Studio. See: http://tinyurl.com/6chhn. Hence, entry number 75 by Zoltan "cad" Juhasz will have to be the winner. Congratulations Zoltan!" * * * * * * So organizers decided not to use the most voted one, but Zoltan's winning proposal is not the current logo. So we can't say current design was a community decision at all. I don't know if "the logo must be free of any copyright or other intellectual property claims" technically correct, if someone needs to "enforce" its fair use as both Vinnie and David have stated. Best, Ion
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Ion Gaztañaga
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Joel de Guzman
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René Ferdinand Rivera Morell