
The 2nd annual Boost Conference has been scheduled for May 4-9 2008. Please save the date! Registration should open sometime in the next week. If you want to stay at the Aspen Meadows (highly recommended as it is within walking distance of the conference venue and was the site of great after-hours discussions in '07), it's especially important this year that you book your rooms early. Since, unlike last year, Aspen's airport will be open this May, demand for rooms has been heavy. In fact, the following week, which we tried to get, was snapped up by another group before we even had a chance to catch our breath, just weeks after BoostCon'07 ended. We'll be working hard on getting the program together for 2008 over the coming weeks. We hope to include many more Boost authors and contributors, and build in several more intensive library-specific sessions, to make 2008 better than ever. Please send any questions to the BoostCon planning committee at: boostcon-plan@lists.boost-consulting.com Those of you who didn't make it to BoostCon'07 may want to have a look at the photo gallery at http://boostcon.com/community/photos, peruse the 2007 program at http://boostcon.com/program, and check out the two trip reports mentioned here: http://boostcon.com/news/2007/Jul/16/yet-another-trip-report. See you in Aspen! -- The BoostCon Planning Committee

David Abrahams wrote:
The 2nd annual Boost Conference has been scheduled for May 4-9 2008. Please save the date! Registration should open sometime in the next week.
If you want to stay at the Aspen Meadows
Wouldn't it be better to change the location, so that people who couldn't come last time because it was very far could come this time? For example, have the conference in Europe or something.

Mathias Gaunard wrote:
David Abrahams wrote:
The 2nd annual Boost Conference has been scheduled for May 4-9 2008. Please save the date! Registration should open sometime in the next week.
If you want to stay at the Aspen Meadows
Wouldn't it be better to change the location, so that people who couldn't come last time because it was very far could come this time? For example, have the conference in Europe or something.
That also makes it very far for people who did come last time :) Seriously, there are a lot of factors that go into the selection of a location for a conference like this. The committee did consider other locations for this year's BoostCon (and will consider other locations for future conferences), but decided to stay in Aspen now that the airport is open. - Doug

Wouldn't it be better to change the location, so that people who couldn't come last time because it was very far could come this time? For example, have the conference in Europe or something.
That also makes it very far for people who did come last time :)
I'm a big fan of Paris :)
A couple of questions: 1) Is there a (reduced) student rate for admission? IEEE/ACM sponsored conferences generally cut a couple hundred off the cost of attending for student members of either organization. 2) Does the conference (or its sponsors) plan to offer any compensation for students, either attending or presenting? I'm interested in attending, but I think I've used all my travel funding for the year - at a conference in Paris. Andrew Sutton asutton@cs.kent.edu

on Mon Dec 17 2007, Andrew Sutton <asutton-AT-cs.kent.edu> wrote:
Wouldn't it be better to change the location, so that people who couldn't come last time because it was very far could come this time? For example, have the conference in Europe or something.
That also makes it very far for people who did come last time :)
I'm a big fan of Paris :)
Look at it this way: with the dollar as weak as it is, even a "very far" trip to the US is still very affordable. It would be wonderful if someone were to put on a EuroBoostCon. I would definitely make the trip (despite the prohibitive exchange rate). One of the main issues with planning such a conference, though, is that you need someone "on the ground" who can scout out facilities, establish relationships, etc. I am "very far" from Paris, so that guy isn't me ;-)
A couple of questions:
1) Is there a (reduced) student rate for admission? IEEE/ACM sponsored conferences generally cut a couple hundred off the cost of attending for student members of either organization.
Not yet, but then we haven't fixed rates for the conference yet.
2) Does the conference (or its sponsors) plan to offer any compensation for students, either attending or presenting? I'm interested in attending, but I think I've used all my travel funding for the year - at a conference in Paris.
Presenters will definitely be given free admission, and we do intend to compensate presenters although I don't know what those numbers will be like yet. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com

David Abrahams wrote:
It would be wonderful if someone were to put on a EuroBoostCon. I would definitely make the trip (despite the prohibitive exchange rate). One of the main issues with planning such a conference, though, is that you need someone "on the ground" who can scout out facilities, establish relationships, etc.
Let me just be one of the many EuroBoostUsers to volunteer to perform this service. I'm currently living in Cambridge which can be a popular venue for this sort of event - but if you want a volunteer to spend a weekend checking out Parisian hotels, I can do that too :-) Perhaps in the shorter term, people might like to consider gatecrashing someone else's conference for a Boost session, booth, BOF event or similar. One obvious open-source event is FOSDEM, held in Brussels in February; though Boost might fit in better at a more "academic" event. I second Volodya's request for more papers (etc) to be available to non-attendees. Phil.

Phil Endecott wrote:
Perhaps in the shorter term, people might like to consider gatecrashing someone else's conference for a Boost session, booth, BOF event or similar. One obvious open-source event is FOSDEM, held in Brussels in February; though Boost might fit in better at a more "academic" event.
There is a C++ standard committee meeting that is held in June at Sophia-Antipolis, next to Nice in France. Maybe some of the Boost gurus will come to France anyway for that.

Douglas Gregor wrote:
Mathias Gaunard wrote:
David Abrahams wrote:
The 2nd annual Boost Conference has been scheduled for May 4-9 2008. Please save the date! Registration should open sometime in the next week.
If you want to stay at the Aspen Meadows
Wouldn't it be better to change the location, so that people who couldn't come last time because it was very far could come this time? For example, have the conference in Europe or something.
That also makes it very far for people who did come last time :)
Seriously, there are a lot of factors that go into the selection of a location for a conference like this. The committee did consider other locations for this year's BoostCon (and will consider other locations for future conferences), but decided to stay in Aspen now that the airport is open.
It appears that so far, of all 2007 talks only 3 are available to public. Is it planned to improve on that, and maybe implement the idea of making audio/video recordings? As it stands, BoostCon is going to have limited impact outside those that attend. (And on the topic of venue and airport -- I've just checked flights to Apsen, from Moscow, from Berlin and from London, and all of them appear to be 2+ stops. JFYI.) - Volodya

(And on the topic of venue and airport -- I've just checked flights to Apsen, from Moscow, from Berlin and from London, and all of them appear to be 2+ stops. JFYI.)
FWIW, that's true for almost any location inside the US as well (except if you start from a major hub of any of the bigger airlines). Regards Hartmut

Hartmut Kaiser wrote:
(And on the topic of venue and airport -- I've just checked flights to Apsen, from Moscow, from Berlin and from London, and all of them appear to be 2+ stops. JFYI.)
FWIW, that's true for almost any location inside the US as well (except if you start from a major hub of any of the bigger airlines).
I can't comment if the above is true -- in part because "almost any" and "inside" are somewhat vague terms ;-) But surely, even if having conference in/near a hub city does not seem acceptable, there are places reachable with 1-stop flight. - Volodya

Douglas Gregor wrote:
Mathias Gaunard wrote:
David Abrahams wrote:
The 2nd annual Boost Conference has been scheduled for May 4-9 2008. Please save the date! Registration should open sometime in the next week.
If you want to stay at the Aspen Meadows
Wouldn't it be better to change the location, so that people who couldn't come last time because it was very far could come this time? For example, have the conference in Europe or something.
That also makes it very far for people who did come last time :)
Seriously, there are a lot of factors that go into the selection of a location for a conference like this. The committee did consider other locations for this year's BoostCon (and will consider other locations for future conferences), but decided to stay in Aspen now that the airport is open.
Another factor is the setting at the Aspen Center for Physics. Compared to a typical conference location at an urban hotel, the location is so much better that the committee felt any travel inconvenience was well worth it. --Beman

On 12/17/07, Beman Dawes <bdawes@acm.org> wrote:
Another factor is the setting at the Aspen Center for Physics. Compared to a typical conference location at an urban hotel, the location is so much better that the committee felt any travel inconvenience was well worth it.
--Beman
I must concur - the location was amazing. As was the conference itself. HIGHLY recommended. It would be nice to change locations every *few* years (changing each year would probably be too much work). But I still don't want any typical conference locations and/or hubs. Driving a few hours from Denver was an unfortunate mix up, but STILL worth it. So switching planes once or twice? - not an issue at all. Tony

Hey, how about where I live? New York City !? -Sid Sacek -----Original Message----- From: boost-bounces@lists.boost.org [mailto:boost-bounces@lists.boost.org] On Behalf Of Gottlob Frege Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:24 PM To: boost@lists.boost.org Subject: Re: [boost] BoostCon 2008: May 4-9 On 12/17/07, Beman Dawes <bdawes@acm.org> wrote:
Another factor is the setting at the Aspen Center for Physics. Compared to a typical conference location at an urban hotel, the location is so much better that the committee felt any travel inconvenience was well worth it.
--Beman
I must concur - the location was amazing. As was the conference itself. HIGHLY recommended. It would be nice to change locations every *few* years (changing each year would probably be too much work). But I still don't want any typical conference locations and/or hubs. Driving a few hours from Denver was an unfortunate mix up, but STILL worth it. So switching planes once or twice? - not an issue at all. Tony _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe & other changes: http://lists.boost.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/boost

LOL - well, how about where I live - Santa Barbara, California. It might be possible to have something like this at the Kalvi Institute for Theoretical Physics at UC Santa Barbara. Then I could bike in from home. Robert Ramey Felipe Magno de Almeida wrote:
On Dec 19, 2007 4:53 PM, Sid Sacek <ssacek@appsecinc.com> wrote:
Hey, how about where I live? New York City !?
How about where I live too? Brazil !? :-)
-Sid Sacek

Having been last year, I would say the location was top-notch. In my view, BoostCon has a tough problem to solve: top last year's content. It might just be easier to move the show around :-) On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 11:50:40 -0800, Robert Ramey wrote:
LOL - well, how about where I live - Santa Barbara, California. It might be possible to have something like this at the Kalvi Institute for Theoretical Physics at UC Santa Barbara. Then I could bike in from home.
Robert Ramey
Felipe Magno de Almeida wrote:
On Dec 19, 2007 4:53 PM, Sid Sacek <ssacek@appsecinc.com> wrote:
Hey, how about where I live? New York City !?
How about where I live too? Brazil !? :-)
-Sid Sacek
-- Sohail Somani http://uint32t.blogspot.com

LOL - well, how about where I live - Santa Barbara, California. It might be possible to have something like this at the Kalvi Institute for Theoretical Physics at UC Santa Barbara. Then I could bike in from home.
I didn't know that you were in Santa Barbara. My daughter is a freshman at UCSB; I was just up there last Saturday (picking her up from the dorms). ;-) -- -- Marshall Marshall Clow Idio Software <mailto:marshall@idio.com> It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

on Wed Dec 19 2007, "Robert Ramey" <ramey-AT-rrsd.com> wrote:
LOL - well, how about where I live - Santa Barbara, California. It might be possible to have something like this at the Kalvi Institute for Theoretical Physics at UC Santa Barbara. Then I could bike in from home.
Nice place; my dad does some Physics there once a year. But again, as with all the other suggestions, the *main* issue is having someone on the ground to do all the organization. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com

Well, I do live here. And Matthias seems to visit KITP once or twice per year so I would think that it would be no more problematic to do here than aspen or anywhere else. Robert Ramey David Abrahams wrote:
on Wed Dec 19 2007, "Robert Ramey" <ramey-AT-rrsd.com> wrote:
LOL - well, how about where I live - Santa Barbara, California. It might be possible to have something like this at the Kalvi Institute for Theoretical Physics at UC Santa Barbara. Then I could bike in from home.
Nice place; my dad does some Physics there once a year. But again, as with all the other suggestions, the *main* issue is having someone on the ground to do all the organization.

Robert Ramey wrote:
Well, I do live here. And Matthias seems to visit KITP once or twice per year so I would think that it would be no more problematic to do here than aspen or anywhere else.
And are you willing to volunteer to do the needed legwork (I'm guessing at least 100 hours)? Having been to Santa B a couple times, it would be a nice location -- not really nicer than Aspen, but nice. Jeff

Jeff Garland wrote:
Robert Ramey wrote:
Well, I do live here. And Matthias seems to visit KITP once or twice per year so I would think that it would be no more problematic to do here than aspen or anywhere else.
And are you willing to volunteer to do the needed legwork (I'm guessing at least 100 hours)?
Aaaa - I can't be more aggravation than making the serialization library. Actually it would depend on whether they were set up for this kind of thing. I've been to lectures over there and it seems like it would be suitable setup - But I don't know what their policy would is. In any case, this be for 2009 and the planing for that would still be months away. If there is real interest I could look into it. It seems to me that Aspen is ideal in lots of ways so I'm not making a case for SB. But since people were thowing out ideas, I thought I'd pitch in my 2 cents. Given the largish european boost contingency, from a practical standpoint, I would think an east coast location would be attractive - to sort of "split the commute".
Having been to Santa B a couple times, it would be a nice location -- not really nicer than Aspen, but nice.
LOL - well, we're doing the best we can. Robert Ramey
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Actually I visit Santa Barbara about 4-6 times a year now. The main problem will be that we'll need more than one lecture hall but KITP only has 2-3, and a conference gets only one of them - the others are needed for regular seminars and talks. But maybe you can talk to other people at UCSB? Matthias On 26 Dec 2007, at 22:57, Robert Ramey wrote:
Well, I do live here. And Matthias seems to visit KITP once or twice per year so I would think that it would be no more problematic to do here than aspen or anywhere else.
Robert Ramey
David Abrahams wrote:
on Wed Dec 19 2007, "Robert Ramey" <ramey-AT-rrsd.com> wrote:
LOL - well, how about where I live - Santa Barbara, California. It might be possible to have something like this at the Kalvi Institute for Theoretical Physics at UC Santa Barbara. Then I could bike in from home.
Nice place; my dad does some Physics there once a year. But again, as with all the other suggestions, the *main* issue is having someone on the ground to do all the organization.
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participants (16)
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Andrew Sutton
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Beman Dawes
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David Abrahams
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Douglas Gregor
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Felipe Magno de Almeida
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Gottlob Frege
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Hartmut Kaiser
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Jeff Garland
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Marshall Clow
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Mathias Gaunard
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Matthias Troyer
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Phil Endecott
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Robert Ramey
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Sid Sacek
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Sohail Somani
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Vladimir Prus