Re: [boost] [Trac] Catch-22: Captcha Errors on legitimate submissions (fwd)
Hi,
I have looked into the trac admin page to see if there is anything useful for this issue and I found that the current Jim Bell’s tickets and comments were filtered out as a spam.
http://www.crest.iu.edu/~dikim/spamfilter.png
The spamfilter on trac is not perfect. It just filters out anything if they meet some criteria that the filter setup. I have not setup the filter criteria (Yes, I have installed the spam filter as you guys requested).
It seems that it needs to train the spam filter with some admin’s interaction on the filtered tickets as a spam or ham.
I just tried to make four Jim Bell’s ticket/comments selected as a ham. I hope the spam filter does a little better job on Jim Bell’s ticket next time.
The following users are the admin of the boost trac system and I hope that they need to train the spam filter from time to time in case this kind of incidents happen.
az_sw_dude admin
bemandawes admin
dave admin
dgregor admin
eric_niebler admin
grafik admin
johnmaddock admin
marshall admin
-PS-
I do not follow this mailing list. If someone forwards an email to me like this, I can see what happens.
Regards,
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- DongInn
On Nov 1, 2013, at 9:35 PM, Jeremiah Willcock
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jim Bell
To: boost@lists.boost.org Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:25:01 -0500 Subject: [boost] [Trac] Catch-22: Captcha Errors on legitimate submissions Reply-To: boost@lists.boost.org X-perlmx-spam: Gauge=X, Probability=10%, Report=' TO_IN_SUBJECT 0.5, REPLYTO_FROM_DIFF_ADDY 0.1, HTML_00_01 0.05, HTML_00_10 0.05, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_1000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_700_799 0, DATE_TZ_NA 0, __ANY_URI 0, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_FROM 0, __HAS_LIST_HEADER 0, __HAS_LIST_HELP 0, __HAS_LIST_SUBSCRIBE 0, __HAS_LIST_UNSUBSCRIBE 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_REPLYTO 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __MOZILLA_MSGID 0, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __TO_IN_SUBJECT 0, __TO_MALFORMED_2 0, __TO_NO_NAME 0, __URI_NO_MAILTO 0, __URI_NO_WWW 0, __URI_NS , __USER_AGENT 0' I had a ticket attachment and comment both rejected from a "captcha error," so I decided to open a Trac ticket on the captcha mechanism itself. But guess what? THAT ticket was also rejected by the captcha error. Catch-22!
So I'm posting it here.
I get: -------------------------------- Captcha Error Submission rejected as potential spam (StopForumSpam says this is spam (username))
Trac thinks your submission might be Spam. To prove otherwise please provide a response to the following. --------------------------------
But there's nothing following to which to provide a response. Is it mis-configured?
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On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:08 PM, DongInn Kim
Hi,
I have looked into the trac admin page to see if there is anything useful for this issue and I found that the current Jim Bell’s tickets and comments were filtered out as a spam. http://www.crest.iu.edu/~dikim/spamfilter.png
The spamfilter on trac is not perfect. It just filters out anything if they
meet some criteria that the filter setup. I have not setup the filter criteria (Yes, I have installed the spam filter as you guys requested).
It seems that the spam filter has attained some considerable new types of filtering, which are not tweaked to Boost's use cases.
It seems that it needs to train the spam filter with some admin’s interaction on the filtered tickets as a spam or ham.
I just tried to make four Jim Bell’s ticket/comments selected as a ham. I hope the spam filter does a little better job on Jim Bell’s ticket next time.
I think that only works for reporting back to services like askimet. Which did not actually play a role in filtering the posts.
The following users are the admin of the boost trac system and I hope that they need to train the spam filter from time to time in case this kind of incidents happen.
az_sw_dude admin bemandawes admin dave admin dgregor admin eric_niebler admin grafik admin johnmaddock admin marshall admin
I used to pay close attention to the spam filtering. But got tired of doing that.. Especially after the spam went down to a minimal trickle. -- -- -- Grafik - Don't Assume Anything -- Redshift Software, Inc. - http://redshift-software.com -- rrivera/acm.org - grafik/redshift-software.com -- 102708583/icq - grafikrobot/aim - grafikrobot/yahoo
On 2013-11-01 11:54 PM, Rene Rivera wrote:
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:08 PM, DongInn Kim
wrote: Hi,
I have looked into the trac admin page to see if there is anything useful for this issue and I found that the current Jim Bell’s tickets and comments were filtered out as a spam. http://www.crest.iu.edu/~dikim/spamfilter.png
The spamfilter on trac is not perfect. It just filters out anything if they
meet some criteria that the filter setup. I have not setup the filter criteria (Yes, I have installed the spam filter as you guys requested).
It seems that the spam filter has attained some considerable new types of filtering, which are not tweaked to Boost's use cases.
It seems that it needs to train the spam filter with some admin’s interaction on the filtered tickets as a spam or ham.
I just tried to make four Jim Bell’s ticket/comments selected as a ham. I hope the spam filter does a little better job on Jim Bell’s ticket next time.
I think that only works for reporting back to services like askimet. Which did not actually play a role in filtering the posts.
But it seems, from the page's message, that there's a captcha that lets us users jump through the hoop on our own. Doesn't it? "Please provide a response to the following." Is there a Trac/server log that might tell what tried to display on that page next but failed to?
The following users are the admin of the boost trac system ... I used to pay close attention to the spam filtering. But got tired of doing that.. Especially after the spam went down to a minimal trickle.
Can't blame you for wearying on that. Those coming after can at least find this thread and track down an admin. Thanks for the screen-shot, DongInn--it's good to know there's a nice admin interface available. Interesting, too, to see the various criteria applied, and that my being rejected multiple times was for different reasons. (I still reserve the right to be paranoid!) But it seems (thanks to some Ukrainian spammer) that my name will permanently block me from Trac. Do I fish for a different one, or is there a tweak? Or does hamming a thing or two fix it? Time will tell, I guess. PS: Searching for "captcha" in Trac tickets/comments shows I'm not alone, though any of those may have been rectified in the past.
Jim Bell
But it seems, from the page's message, that there's a captcha that lets us users jump through the hoop on our own. Doesn't it? "Please provide a response to the following." Is there a Trac/server log that might tell what tried to display on that page next but failed to?
Would you happen to be using Chrome? If so, you might want to try with a different browser. I think I remember having the same issue a couple of times. Regards, Louis Dionne
On 5/11/2013 10:27, Quoth Louis Dionne:
But it seems, from the page's message, that there's a captcha that lets us users jump through the hoop on our own. Doesn't it? "Please provide a response to the following." Is there a Trac/server log that might tell what tried to display on that page next but failed to?
Would you happen to be using Chrome? If so, you might want to try with a different browser. I think I remember having the same issue a couple of times.
I had the same issue with Trac a while back, and I was using Firefox. If it's not working with Firefox or Chrome, then it's not working at all. :)
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DongInn Kim
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Gavin Lambert
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Jim Bell
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Louis Dionne
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Rene Rivera