boost 1.32 acknowledgements

In the acknowledgements section I see my name twice, while I do not see Aleksey Gurtovoy . I understand that our release manager is very modest person, but listing my name (person who did very little for Boost, if anything) and forgetting name of release manager seems wrong. B.

Bronek Kozicki wrote:
In the acknowledgements section I see my name twice, while I do not see Aleksey Gurtovoy . I understand that our release manager is very modest person, but listing my name (person who did very little for Boost, if anything) and forgetting name of release manager seems wrong.
To mention Aleksey there is the least we should do to thank him for everything he did for this release (and for the future ones) and I hope it's not too late for that! Anybody volunteering to write 2 sentences? Stefan

Stefan Slapeta ha escrito:
Bronek Kozicki wrote:
In the acknowledgements section I see my name twice, while I do not see Aleksey Gurtovoy . I understand that our release manager is very modest person, but listing my name (person who did very little for Boost, if anything) and forgetting name of release manager seems wrong.
To mention Aleksey there is the least we should do to thank him for everything he did for this release (and for the future ones) and I hope it's not too late for that!
Anybody volunteering to write 2 sentences?
Maybe something to adorn the acknlowedgements section like shown below? http://195.235.93.150/boost.html I don't know, perhaps it's a little too childish, but well I was in the mood :) Joaquín M López Muñoz Telefónica, Investigación y Desarrollo

Joaquín Mª López Muñoz <joaquin@tid.es> writes:
Stefan Slapeta ha escrito:
Bronek Kozicki wrote:
In the acknowledgements section I see my name twice, while I do not see Aleksey Gurtovoy . I understand that our release manager is very modest person, but listing my name (person who did very little for Boost, if anything) and forgetting name of release manager seems wrong.
To mention Aleksey there is the least we should do to thank him for everything he did for this release (and for the future ones) and I hope it's not too late for that!
Anybody volunteering to write 2 sentences?
Maybe something to adorn the acknlowedgements section like shown below?
http://195.235.93.150/boost.html
I don't know, perhaps it's a little too childish, but well I was in the mood :)
Can we PLEASE, PLEASE use this? I love it! Aleksey always won my "best hat" award. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com

John Maddock wrote:
Can we PLEASE, PLEASE use this? I love it! Aleksey always won my "best hat" award.
It does look cute, and I agree we should use it but shouldn't Alekseys name go into the "special mention" section as release manager?
definitely. And that would start good tradition mentioning release managers :) But I won't propose wording, as my language skills are far from perfect. B.

"John Maddock" <john@johnmaddock.co.uk> writes:
Can we PLEASE, PLEASE use this? I love it! Aleksey always won my "best hat" award.
It does look cute, and I agree we should use it but shouldn't Alekseys name go into the "special mention" section as release manager?
Absolutely! -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com

David Abrahams ha escrito:
Joaquín Mª López Muñoz <joaquin@tid.es> writes:
[...]
Maybe something to adorn the acknlowedgements section like shown below?
http://195.235.93.150/boost.html
I don't know, perhaps it's a little too childish, but well I was in the mood :)
Can we PLEASE, PLEASE use this? I love it! Aleksey always won my "best hat" award.
Oh sure, that's what I made it for. Maybe the img can link to Mr. Gurtovoy's page in the people's section or something like that. Well, this I leave to your good taste. Joaquín M López Muñoz Telefónica, Investigación y Desarrollo

Joaquín Mª López Muñoz writes:
Bronek Kozicki wrote:
In the acknowledgements section I see my name twice, while I do not see Aleksey Gurtovoy . I understand that our release manager is very modest person, but listing my name (person who did very little for Boost, if anything) and forgetting name of release manager seems wrong.
To mention Aleksey there is the least we should do to thank him for everything he did for this release (and for the future ones) and I hope it's not too late for that!
Anybody volunteering to write 2 sentences?
Maybe something to adorn the acknlowedgements section like shown below?
http://195.235.93.150/boost.html
I don't know, perhaps it's a little too childish, but well I was in the mood :)
I'm not sure whether it's in the spirit of our main page, but the image made me laugh wholeheartedly for the good five minutes. Thank you for making my day! -- Aleksey Gurtovoy MetaCommunications Engineering

"Aleksey Gurtovoy" <agurtovoy@meta-comm.com> writes:
I'm not sure whether it's in the spirit of our main page, but the image made me laugh wholeheartedly for the good five minutes. Thank you for making my day!
For my part, I think the "spirit of our main page" is not all that great right now (it has needed a redesign for several years) and this would be a small improvement. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com

On 11/16/04 9:55 AM, "Joaquín Mª López Muñoz" <joaquin@tid.es> wrote:
To mention Aleksey there is the least we should do to thank him for everything he did for this release (and for the future ones) and I hope it's not too late for that!
Anybody volunteering to write 2 sentences?
Maybe something to adorn the acknlowedgements section like shown below?
http://195.235.93.150/boost.html
I don't know, perhaps it's a little too childish, but well I was in the mood
Since everyone so far was gushing with joy over the suggestion, I guess I have to step in personally to be the kill-joy objector. The "1.32" moniker implies that there have been (around) 31 previous releases. What makes Aleksey's so special? Has he been faster than previous releases by Beman or Dave (or whoever else)? I colloquially feel that this release round has taken too long, but I won't officially complain since I never did a "bytes of added/changed code" per "release preparation time" analysis for all the releases. The only objection I have concerns the cartoon. Yes, I think it's too childish. I know this response is too late since Dave has already implemented the idea, but can he yank the cartoon, if Dave actually included it? (I haven't seen the updated page yet.) Aleksey can include the cartoon on his Boost page if he wants. -- Daryle Walker Mac, Internet, and Video Game Junkie darylew AT hotmail DOT com

Daryle Walker <darylew <at> hotmail.com> writes:
On 11/16/04 9:55 AM, "Joaquín Mª López Muñoz" <joaquin <at> tid.es> wrote:
To mention Aleksey there is the least we should do to thank him for everything he did for this release (and for the future ones) and I hope it's not too late for that!
Anybody volunteering to write 2 sentences?
Maybe something to adorn the acknlowedgements section like shown below?
http://195.235.93.150/boost.html
I don't know, perhaps it's a little too childish, but well I was in the mood
Since everyone so far was gushing with joy over the suggestion, I guess I have to step in personally to be the kill-joy objector.
The "1.32" moniker implies that there have been (around) 31 previous releases. What makes Aleksey's so special? Has he been faster than previous releases by Beman or Dave (or whoever else)?
It is not only Aleksey who's being thanked, but also a bunch of other people who were supporting the process (including you and me.) So I guess the point is whether we should thank anyone or nobody (thanking everybody but the manager would be, well, weird.) IMHO this is the beginning of a healthy tradition, no comparison meant to past release managers and collaborators.
I colloquially feel that this release round has taken too long, but I won't officially complain since I never did a "bytes of added/changed code" per "release preparation time" analysis for all the releases.
I agree with you on this, but this is probably a separate topic (and a one I'd like to raise once the 1.32 party is over.)
The only objection I have concerns the cartoon. Yes, I think it's too childish. I know this response is too late since Dave has already implemented the idea, but can he yank the cartoon, if Dave actually included it? (I haven't seen the updated page yet.) Aleksey can include the cartoon on his Boost page if he wants.
Having produced the thing, I feel a bit guilty :) I find the image a little at odds with the general feel of the site, but some humor cannot hurt much. Anyway, this is just my personal opinion. At least, I hope nobody finds it offensive or deeply inappropriate. Best, Joaquín M López Muñoz Telefónica, Investigación y Desarrollo

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:58:26 +0000 (UTC) Joaquin M Lopez Munoz <joaquin@tid.es> wrote:
The only objection I have concerns the cartoon. Yes, I think it's too childish. I know this response is too late since Dave has already implemented the idea, but can he yank the cartoon, if Dave actually included it? (I haven't seen the updated page yet.) Aleksey can include the cartoon on his Boost page if he wants.
Having produced the thing, I feel a bit guilty :) I find the image a little at odds with the general feel of the site, but some humor cannot hurt much. Anyway, this is just my personal opinion. At least, I hope nobody finds it offensive or deeply inappropriate.
Anyone who even skims through this mailing list would have to agree that we all tend to take ourselves a bit too seriously. From my perspective, little "childish" humor is a welcome bit of fresh air...

Jody Hagins wrote:
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 13:58:26 +0000 (UTC) Joaquin M Lopez Munoz <joaquin@tid.es> wrote:
The only objection I have concerns the cartoon. Yes, I think it's too childish. I know this response is too late since Dave has already implemented the idea, but can he yank the cartoon, if Dave actually included it? (I haven't seen the updated page yet.) Aleksey can include the cartoon on his Boost page if he wants.
Having produced the thing, I feel a bit guilty :) I find the image a little at odds with the general feel of the site, but some humor cannot hurt much. Anyway, this is just my personal opinion. At least, I hope nobody finds it offensive or deeply inappropriate.
Anyone who even skims through this mailing list would have to agree that we all tend to take ourselves a bit too seriously. From my perspective, little "childish" humor is a welcome bit of fresh air...
I agree 100%. A little humor here and there, in fact, is good! For one, it relieves stress, and promotes a good feeling for the reader. IMHO, that's very important. It's hard to get through a very serious book, for instance. I prefer reading a book with a bit of humor here and there. Same with web pages. If it's at odds with the general feel of the site as it is now, so what? To be blunt, I feel that the site needs a major overhaul. I find it to be, ehm... boring. I hope this is a start of something new! Regards, -- Joel de Guzman http://www.boost-consulting.com http://spirit.sf.net

Joel de Guzman wrote:
To be blunt, I feel that the site needs a major overhaul. I find it to be, ehm... boring. I hope this is a start of something new!
How's this... http://redshift-software.com/~grafik/boost/index.htm It's all CSS, so it's even readable to the visually impaired. And of course those using Lynx ;-) -- -- Grafik - Don't Assume Anything -- Redshift Software, Inc. - http://redshift-software.com -- rrivera/acm.org - grafik/redshift-software.com - 102708583/icq

Rene Rivera wrote:
Joel de Guzman wrote:
To be blunt, I feel that the site needs a major overhaul. I find it to be, ehm... boring. I hope this is a start of something new!
How's this...
http://redshift-software.com/~grafik/boost/index.htm
It's all CSS, so it's even readable to the visually impaired. And of course those using Lynx ;-)
Awesome!!!! -- Joel de Guzman http://www.boost-consulting.com http://spirit.sf.net

Rene Rivera <grafik.list@redshift-software.com> wrote:
How's this...
very nice B. -- Bronek Kozicki brok@rubikon.pl http://b.kozicki.pl/

Rene Rivera wrote:
Joel de Guzman wrote:
To be blunt, I feel that the site needs a major overhaul. I find it to be, ehm... boring. I hope this is a start of something new!
How's this...
http://redshift-software.com/~grafik/boost/index.htm
It's all CSS, so it's even readable to the visually impaired. And of course those using Lynx ;-)
It's nice, but: I don't like the vertical logo and the blank space in the upper left corner. And I think the icons looks out of place. Perhaps they should be smaller and placed next to the headings (which I don't think should be removed)? Could the body text size be one step smaller perhaps? For some reason I find it a bit hard to read in IE @ 1280x1024 because the font is so big. Maybe that's just me though.. Something like this, but with a lot more tweaking: http://luabind.sf.net/boost.png (It only looked good in IE, so I didn't want to upload the html..) -- Daniel Wallin

Daniel Wallin wrote:
It's nice, but: I don't like the vertical logo and the blank space in the upper left corner. And I think the icons looks out of place. Perhaps they should be smaller and placed next to the headings (which I don't think should be removed)?
I think I also prefer this one (if the icons get included again). Nevertheless: nice work, Rene! Stefan

Daniel Wallin wrote:
It's nice, but: I don't like the vertical logo and the blank space in the upper left corner. And I think the icons looks out of place. Perhaps they should be smaller and placed next to the headings (which I don't think should be removed)?
Could the body text size be one step smaller perhaps? For some reason I find it a bit hard to read in IE @ 1280x1024 because the font is so big. Maybe that's just me though..
I think it's just you... I don't set the size at all for the body text. So it's set to whatever your preferences you decided you wanted in your browser. Making other texts larger and smaller is fine, but changing the size of regular text on the user is just rude :-) I debated what to do with the top left corner, had the menus all the way up for a while with no space. It does need some space there, either as whitespace or an image, as otherwise it gets to crowded at top. What makes you feel the icons are out of place? Is it only the aspect that they show up large on you screen? -- -- Grafik - Don't Assume Anything -- Redshift Software, Inc. - http://redshift-software.com -- rrivera/acm.org - grafik/redshift-software.com - 102708583/icq

On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:23:44 -0600, Rene Rivera <grafik.list@redshift-software.com> wrote:
Daniel Wallin wrote:
It's nice, but: I don't like the vertical logo and the blank space in the upper left corner. And I think the icons looks out of place. Perhaps they should be smaller and placed next to the headings (which I don't think should be removed)?
Could the body text size be one step smaller perhaps? For some reason I find it a bit hard to read in IE @ 1280x1024 because the font is so big. Maybe that's just me though..
I think it's just you... I don't set the size at all for the body text. So it's set to whatever your preferences you decided you wanted in your browser. Making other texts larger and smaller is fine, but changing the size of regular text on the user is just rude :-)
Its not just Daniel. The text does look rather large to me as well. Perhaps its just the sans-serif typeface's fault though. The fixed-width fonts that appear right next to the proportional ones look a good deal smaller (cf. "floyd_warshall_all_pairs_shortest_paths, from Lauren Foutz and Scott Hill."). Fiddling with the font size defaults in my browser fixes the issue, but with the OOTB configuration, it looks a trifle odd.
I debated what to do with the top left corner, had the menus all the way up for a while with no space. It does need some space there, either as whitespace or an image, as otherwise it gets to crowded at top.
I think a rotated version of your Boost logo would go well there, as in Daniel's screenshot.
What makes you feel the icons are out of place? Is it only the aspect that they show up large on you screen?
They seem too large to me, and begin slightly above the dotted section delimiter on my browser (Firefox 1.0 on Windows). Overall I like your design a LOT. These are just minor quibbles. -- Caleb Epstein caleb dot epstein at gmail dot com

Rene Rivera <grafik.list@redshift-software.com> writes:
Daniel Wallin wrote:
It's nice, but: I don't like the vertical logo and the blank space in the upper left corner. And I think the icons looks out of place. Perhaps they should be smaller and placed next to the headings (which I don't think should be removed)? Could the body text size be one step smaller perhaps? For some reason I find it a bit hard to read in IE @ 1280x1024 because the font is so big. Maybe that's just me though..
I think it's just you... I don't set the size at all for the body text.
Actually, I agree with Daniel. I didn't think I would, but the text size he chose looks way better to me in IE6 than the larger one.
So it's set to whatever your preferences you decided you wanted in your browser. Making other texts larger and smaller is fine, but changing the size of regular text on the user is just rude :-)
Except that most people don't tweak their browser defaults. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com

Rene Rivera wrote:
Daniel Wallin wrote:
It's nice, but: I don't like the vertical logo and the blank space in the upper left corner. And I think the icons looks out of place. Perhaps they should be smaller and placed next to the headings (which I don't think should be removed)?
Could the body text size be one step smaller perhaps? For some reason I find it a bit hard to read in IE @ 1280x1024 because the font is so big. Maybe that's just me though..
I think it's just you... I don't set the size at all for the body text. So it's set to whatever your preferences you decided you wanted in your browser. Making other texts larger and smaller is fine, but changing the size of regular text on the user is just rude :-)
I don't know, almost all websites I know that use sans serifs has the font size that I posted. If I configure my browser to use a smaller font-size I won't be able to read those sites.
I debated what to do with the top left corner, had the menus all the way up for a while with no space. It does need some space there, either as whitespace or an image, as otherwise it gets to crowded at top.
Yeah, well. I think you should rotate the logo and put it there. Like in the png i sent.
What makes you feel the icons are out of place? Is it only the aspect that they show up large on you screen?
No, I also don't think the colors fit. And that it looks strange with the dashed line coming out of the icon 1/4 from the top. It just looks odd. I think that if you have to have icons, they should be next to a large text heading, or right aligned where they don't have such a strong visual role. Oh, and in the latest version I think the borders around the menu are too strong. Don't get me wrong, I think you are doing a great job with this. I just want to reach perfection. ;) -- Daniel Wallin

Daniel Wallin wrote:
I don't know, almost all websites I know that use sans serifs has the font size that I posted. If I configure my browser to use a smaller font-size I won't be able to read those sites.
In case it wasn't obvious... I did make the font smaller overall. Hope it's enough. -- -- Grafik - Don't Assume Anything -- Redshift Software, Inc. - http://redshift-software.com -- rrivera/acm.org - grafik/redshift-software.com - 102708583/icq

Daniel Wallin <dalwan01@student.umu.se> writes:
Rene Rivera wrote:
Joel de Guzman wrote:
To be blunt, I feel that the site needs a major overhaul. I find it to be, ehm... boring. I hope this is a start of something new! How's this... http://redshift-software.com/~grafik/boost/index.htm It's all CSS, so it's even readable to the visually impaired. And of course those using Lynx ;-)
It's nice, but: I don't like the vertical logo and the blank space in the upper left corner.
I agree about the blank space, but I think the logo is okay.
And I think the icons looks out of place. Perhaps they should be smaller
Smaller might be better.
and placed next to the headings (which I don't think should be removed)?
Could the body text size be one step smaller perhaps? For some reason I find it a bit hard to read in IE @ 1280x1024 because the font is so big. Maybe that's just me though..
Something like this, but with a lot more tweaking:
http://luabind.sf.net/boost.png
(It only looked good in IE, so I didn't want to upload the html..)
All things considered, I think your redesign is an improvement on Rene's (which was a huge improvement on what we had). I might like to see the icons return (smaller). -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com

Rene Rivera wrote:
[...] How's this...
Very cool! However, does the news need to all be on the main page? How about the last N items, for N < 5 or so, or maybe the last month or two of news, or maybe the news for the last X releases/patches or whatever? I like fast-loading pages, and even on broadband, loading all the news takes a noticeable amount of time. Also, I think the icons are cool, but the only thing better than icons are icons + text. I think if the icons stay, the text headings should also stay. I also agree that the rotated logo in the upper left is very nice looking (though some might worry that it has an uncanny resemblance to Borland marketing material ;). Dave

Hi Rene,
Superdeluxe! A big improvement over the current design. I think some details need a bit of work (mainly what Bronek already stated: logo sizes blank space at the top, etc.). Thanks & Regards, -- Andreas Huber When replying by private email, please remove the words spam and trap from the address shown in the header.

Andreas Huber wrote:
Superdeluxe! A big improvement over the current design. I think some details need a bit of work (mainly what Bronek already stated: logo sizes blank space at the top, etc.).
I think that was Daniel :) But I agree, there could be improvements. Still much nicer than current one. B.

Is this thread holding up the official release? I thought it was planned for Nov. 17. -- Dick Hadsell 914-259-6320 Fax: 914-259-6499 Reply-to: hadsell@blueskystudios.com Blue Sky Studios http://www.blueskystudios.com 44 South Broadway, White Plains, NY 10601

Richard Hadsell <hadsell@blueskystudios.com> writes:
Is this thread holding up the official release?
Definitely not. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com

Bronek Kozicki wrote:
Andreas Huber wrote:
Superdeluxe! A big improvement over the current design. I think some details need a bit of work (mainly what Bronek already stated: logo sizes blank space at the top, etc.).
I think that was Daniel :) But I agree, there could be improvements. Still much nicer than current one.
Oops, sorry! I meant Daniel. Regards, -- Andreas Huber When replying by private email, please remove the words spam and trap from the address shown in the header.

Rene Rivera <grafik.list@redshift-software.com> writes:
Joel de Guzman wrote:
To be blunt, I feel that the site needs a major overhaul. I find it to be, ehm... boring. I hope this is a start of something new!
How's this...
http://redshift-software.com/~grafik/boost/index.htm
It's all CSS, so it's even readable to the visually impaired. And of course those using Lynx ;-)
Very, *very* cool. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com

Joaquin M Lopez Munoz wrote:
Daryle Walker <darylew <at> hotmail.com> writes: [...]
The only objection I have concerns the cartoon. Yes, I think it's too childish. I know this response is too late since Dave has already implemented the idea, but can he yank the cartoon, if Dave actually included it? (I haven't seen the updated page yet.) Aleksey can include the cartoon on his Boost page if he wants.
Having produced the thing, I feel a bit guilty :) I find the image a little at odds with the general feel of the site, but some humor cannot hurt much. Anyway, this is just my personal opinion. At least, I hope nobody finds it offensive or deeply inappropriate.
I would be offended if the cartoon got voted away. I seriously doubt someone will come across the Boost site and say: "Well, this seems to be a repository of high-quality C++ libraries, but I just can't take it seriously because of that obnoxious cartoon." And if they do, they probably wouldn't benefit much anyway. If the cartoon were a crudely drawn stick figure, I would be annoyed. But I think the cartoon meets the quality standards of Boost as much as any code does. Dave

Daryle Walker writes:
I colloquially feel that this release round has taken too long, but I won't officially complain since I never did a "bytes of added/changed code" per "release preparation time" analysis for all the releases.
I can assure that this is very wise of you. -- Aleksey Gurtovoy MetaCommunications Engineering

Daryle Walker wrote:
Since everyone so far was gushing with joy over the suggestion, I guess I have to step in personally to be the kill-joy objector.
The "1.32" moniker implies that there have been (around) 31 previous releases. What makes Aleksey's so special? Has he been faster than previous releases by Beman or Dave (or whoever else)?
To be honest, I have no idea why you can think that one release manager is be better than another only because he is faster. IMO, to thank a the release manager doesn't mean to make any kind of ranking!
I colloquially feel that this release round has taken too long, but I won't officially complain since I never did a "bytes of added/changed code" per "release preparation time" analysis for all the releases.
Actually, this time there were many new libraries included (more than in previous releases) that caused many more tests being necessary and many regressions to be fixed. Although I would have been glad if this release came earlier, I'm sure that it's much more important to release the library in a _very_ good state than to release it fast. I never got the impression that there was too much time wasted as there were many regressions to fix at any time!
The only objection I have concerns the cartoon. Yes, I think it's too childish.
I've no such feelings (but I've also heard people saying Gary Larson is childish, so...).
I know this response is too late since Dave has already implemented the idea, but can he yank the cartoon, if Dave actually included it? (I haven't seen the updated page yet.)
I really hope he won't. Stefan

Stefan Slapeta wrote:
Daryle Walker wrote:
The only objection I have concerns the cartoon. Yes, I think it's too childish.
I've no such feelings (but I've also heard people saying Gary Larson is childish, so...).
I know this response is too late since Dave has already implemented the idea, but can he yank the cartoon, if Dave actually included it? (I haven't seen the updated page yet.)
I really hope he won't.
A view from a complete outsider: Agreed. In fact, I think you all should go back and add similar cartoons of the other release managers to the releases they managed. And there should be a new page called the "Release Manager Hall of Fame" containing all of the cartoons. I'm serious. These people deserve all the recognition they can be given, and I think the cartoon of Aleksey is a brilliantly effective way of doing that. Detailed and frank discussions about release procedures and how to improve them are important, but I think it's inappropriate to discuss or even raise the issue of the relative merits of the release managers. The sheer amount of work being done on a volunteer basis appears staggering to me, and I'm sure I'm only dimly aware of a small fraction of what's being done.

Daryle Walker <darylew@hotmail.com> writes:
On 11/16/04 9:55 AM, "Joaquín Mª López Muñoz" <joaquin@tid.es> wrote:
To mention Aleksey there is the least we should do to thank him for everything he did for this release (and for the future ones) and I hope it's not too late for that!
Anybody volunteering to write 2 sentences?
Maybe something to adorn the acknlowedgements section like shown below?
http://195.235.93.150/boost.html
I don't know, perhaps it's a little too childish, but well I was in the mood
Since everyone so far was gushing with joy over the suggestion, I guess I have to step in personally to be the kill-joy objector.
The "1.32" moniker implies that there have been (around) 31 previous releases. What makes Aleksey's so special? Has he been faster than previous releases by Beman or Dave (or whoever else)?
He has been way more thorough and methodical. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com

Stefan Slapeta <stefan@slapeta.com> writes:
Bronek Kozicki wrote:
In the acknowledgements section I see my name twice, while I do not see Aleksey Gurtovoy . I understand that our release manager is very modest person, but listing my name (person who did very little for Boost, if anything) and forgetting name of release manager seems wrong.
To mention Aleksey there is the least we should do to thank him for everything he did for this release (and for the future ones) and I hope it's not too late for that!
Anybody volunteering to write 2 sentences?
I will be happy to, but there's a question of whether we need to bump the minor version number in order to make any changes. The CD for the book is already frozen .-| -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com

David Abrahams writes:
Stefan Slapeta <stefan@slapeta.com> writes:
Bronek Kozicki wrote:
In the acknowledgements section I see my name twice, while I do not see Aleksey Gurtovoy . I understand that our release manager is very modest person, but listing my name (person who did very little for Boost, if anything) and forgetting name of release manager seems wrong.
To mention Aleksey there is the least we should do to thank him for everything he did for this release (and for the future ones) and I hope it's not too late for that!
Anybody volunteering to write 2 sentences?
I will be happy to, but there's a question of whether we need to bump the minor version number in order to make any changes. The CD for the book is already frozen .-|
As long as it's docs only, I'm inclined to think that we shouldn't. IMO releasing 1.32.1 without 1.32.0 is bound to cause more confusion than minor docs discrepancy between the release and the CD. -- Aleksey Gurtovoy MetaCommunications Engineering

Aleksey Gurtovoy ha escrito:
David Abrahams writes:
Stefan Slapeta <stefan@slapeta.com> writes:
Bronek Kozicki wrote:
In the acknowledgements section I see my name twice, while I do not see Aleksey Gurtovoy . I understand that our release manager is very modest person, but listing my name (person who did very little for Boost, if anything) and forgetting name of release manager seems wrong.
To mention Aleksey there is the least we should do to thank him for everything he did for this release (and for the future ones) and I hope it's not too late for that!
Anybody volunteering to write 2 sentences?
I will be happy to, but there's a question of whether we need to bump the minor version number in order to make any changes. The CD for the book is already frozen .-|
As long as it's docs only, I'm inclined to think that we shouldn't. IMO releasing 1.32.1 without 1.32.0 is bound to cause more confusion than minor docs discrepancy between the release and the CD.
Nobody's going to take on this, then? Joaquín M López Muñoz Telefónica, Investigación y Desarrollo

Joaquín Mª López Muñoz writes:
Aleksey Gurtovoy ha escrito:
David Abrahams writes:
Stefan Slapeta <stefan@slapeta.com> writes:
Bronek Kozicki wrote:
In the acknowledgements section I see my name twice, while I do not see Aleksey Gurtovoy . I understand that our release manager is very modest person, but listing my name (person who did very little for Boost, if anything) and forgetting name of release manager seems wrong.
To mention Aleksey there is the least we should do to thank him for everything he did for this release (and for the future ones) and I hope it's not too late for that!
Anybody volunteering to write 2 sentences?
I will be happy to, but there's a question of whether we need to bump the minor version number in order to make any changes. The CD for the book is already frozen .-|
As long as it's docs only, I'm inclined to think that we shouldn't. IMO releasing 1.32.1 without 1.32.0 is bound to cause more confusion than minor docs discrepancy between the release and the CD.
Nobody's going to take on this, then?
I don't know about "2 sentences", but my "we shouldn't" was referring to David's "whether we need to bump the minor version number", not to "make any changes". -- Aleksey Gurtovoy MetaCommunications Engineering

Aleksey Gurtovoy ha escrito:
Joaquín Mª López Muñoz writes:
Aleksey Gurtovoy ha escrito:
David Abrahams writes:
Stefan Slapeta <stefan@slapeta.com> writes:
Bronek Kozicki wrote:
In the acknowledgements section I see my name twice, while I do not see Aleksey Gurtovoy . I understand that our release manager is very modest person, but listing my name (person who did very little for Boost, if anything) and forgetting name of release manager seems wrong.
To mention Aleksey there is the least we should do to thank him for everything he did for this release (and for the future ones) and I hope it's not too late for that!
Anybody volunteering to write 2 sentences?
I will be happy to, but there's a question of whether we need to bump the minor version number in order to make any changes. The CD for the book is already frozen .-|
As long as it's docs only, I'm inclined to think that we shouldn't. IMO releasing 1.32.1 without 1.32.0 is bound to cause more confusion than minor docs discrepancy between the release and the CD.
Nobody's going to take on this, then?
I don't know about "2 sentences", but my "we shouldn't" was referring to David's "whether we need to bump the minor version number", not to "make any changes".
Oh, sure. I mean, nobody's going to add something to the mainpage to thank A.G.'s efforts? (I can't, don't have CVS access right now.) Joaquín M López Muñoz Telefónica, Investigación y Desarrollo

On 11/17/04 1:03 PM, "Aleksey Gurtovoy" <agurtovoy@meta-comm.com> wrote:
Joaquín Mª López Muñoz writes:
Aleksey Gurtovoy ha escrito:
David Abrahams writes:
Stefan Slapeta <stefan@slapeta.com> writes: [SNIP]
Anybody volunteering to write 2 sentences?
I will be happy to, but there's a question of whether we need to bump the minor version number in order to make any changes. The CD for the book is already frozen .-|
As long as it's docs only, I'm inclined to think that we shouldn't. IMO releasing 1.32.1 without 1.32.0 is bound to cause more confusion than minor docs discrepancy between the release and the CD.
Nobody's going to take on this, then?
I don't know about "2 sentences", but my "we shouldn't" was referring to David's "whether we need to bump the minor version number", not to "make any changes".
If the Internet release is going to be different from the book-CD release, then the release that occurs second should have some sort of indicator. We wouldn't want to have users in a lurch if a bug shows up that only affects one of the releases (i.e. with no way to check). -- Daryle Walker Mac, Internet, and Video Game Junkie darylew AT hotmail DOT com

Joaquín Mª López Muñoz <joaquin@tid.es> writes:
Nobody's going to take on this, then?
I'm doing it. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com

David Abrahams <dave@boost-consulting.com> writes:
Joaquín Mª López Muñoz <joaquin@tid.es> writes:
Nobody's going to take on this, then?
I'm doing it.
Done. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com

Bronek Kozicki <brok@rubikon.pl> writes:
In the acknowledgements section I see my name twice, while I do not see Aleksey Gurtovoy . I understand that our release manager is very modest person, but listing my name (person who did very little for Boost, if anything) and forgetting name of release manager seems wrong.
I agree! -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting http://www.boost-consulting.com
participants (20)
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Aleksey Gurtovoy
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Andreas Huber
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Beman Dawes
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Bronek Kozicki
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Bronek Kozicki
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Caleb Epstein
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Daniel Wallin
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Daryle Walker
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David Abrahams
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David B. Held
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Deane Yang
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Joaquin M Lopez Munoz
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Joaquín Mª López Muñoz
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Jody Hagins
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Joel de Guzman
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John Maddock
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Rene Rivera
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Richard Hadsell
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Stefan Slapeta
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Stefan Slapeta