Dear Boosters, We would like to ask for an informal review of our Relational Template Library (RTL). In particular we would like to find out whether you think that: 1) relational algebra is a useful instrument for C++ programmers; 2) The solution based on template meta-programming is suitable for such library; 3) RTL itself is a good start, and, with some changes and corrections, can expect to eventially become part of Boost (if not -- why?). Another question we woulld like to ask is which areas do you think might benefit from such library, like, maybe, games, firewalls, etc. The library has been tested with VC7.1 and GCC 3.3. It is located at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/boost/files/tables.zip Thanks, Arkadiy _________________________________________________________________ Dream of owning a home? Find out how in the First-time Home Buying Guide. http://special.msn.com/home/firsthome.armx
I'd love to look at it, but I'm apparently banned from the files section on Yahoo by the group moderator. I have NO idea who the group moderator is, so I cannot even send a EMail and find out why. At Friday 2004-02-20 09:38, you wrote:
Dear Boosters,
We would like to ask for an informal review of our Relational Template Library (RTL). In particular we would like to find out whether you think that:
1) relational algebra is a useful instrument for C++ programmers; 2) The solution based on template meta-programming is suitable for such library; 3) RTL itself is a good start, and, with some changes and corrections, can expect to eventially become part of Boost (if not -- why?).
Another question we woulld like to ask is which areas do you think might benefit from such library, like, maybe, games, firewalls, etc.
The library has been tested with VC7.1 and GCC 3.3.
It is located at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/boost/files/tables.zip
Thanks,
Arkadiy
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I'd love to look at it, but I'm apparently banned from the files section on Yahoo by the group moderator. I have NO idea who the group moderator is, so I cannot even send a EMail and find out why.
At Friday 2004-02-20 09:38, you wrote:
Dear Boosters,
We would like to ask for an informal review of our Relational Template Library (RTL). In particular we would like to find out whether you think
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1) relational algebra is a useful instrument for C++ programmers; 2) The solution based on template meta-programming is suitable for such library; 3) RTL itself is a good start, and, with some changes and corrections,
can
expect to eventially become part of Boost (if not -- why?).
Another question we woulld like to ask is which areas do you think might benefit from such library, like, maybe, games, firewalls, etc.
The library has been tested with VC7.1 and GCC 3.3.
It is located at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/boost/files/tables.zip
Thanks,
Arkadiy
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I'd love to look at it, but I'm apparently banned from the files section on Yahoo by the group moderator. I have NO idea who the group moderator is, so I cannot even send a EMail and find out why.
Are you a member of the yahoo group? Unfortunately, Yahoo won't let any non-members look at the files section. I doubt there's any specific ban on you personally. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com
I tried to join (i.e. "get web access") and was told my email address was banned by the group moderator <shrug> this is what it tells me when I try: You have been banned from this group by the group moderator. You may not join this group boost. that sounds like a pretty specific ban on me.... the previous page shows: You already have 1 membership(s) for this group with the email addresses in your Account Info. Click "Get Web Access" below to complete the registration required for Web Access, or or "Edit Membership" to manage this membership with this Yahoo! ID. vawjr@rudbek.com (Subscribed to mailing list. Get Web Access) At Saturday 2004-02-21 05:17, you wrote:
"Victor A. Wagner Jr." <vawjr@rudbek.com> writes:
I'd love to look at it, but I'm apparently banned from the files section on Yahoo by the group moderator. I have NO idea who the group moderator is, so I cannot even send a EMail and find out why.
Are you a member of the yahoo group? Unfortunately, Yahoo won't let any non-members look at the files section. I doubt there's any specific ban on you personally.
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that sounds like a pretty specific ban on me....
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OK, you're un-banned now. Sorry for the inconvenience. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com
Dear Boosters,
We would like to ask for an informal review of our Relational Template Library (RTL). In particular we would like to find out whether you think that:
1) relational algebra is a useful instrument for C++ programmers; I believe I can see it's potential. It might take a while to become commonplace but so did the STL and most of boost ;) On the other hand there should be quite a lot of "database-folks" around that perhaps find this
2) The solution based on template meta-programming is suitable for such library; I don't think this is a problem, in fact I don't really see how it could be made non-intrusive and type-safe and generic and efficient otherwise? (All
Arkadiy Vertleyb wrote: pretty straightforward? properties I expect to find in a modern boost-lib).
3) RTL itself is a good start, and, with some changes and corrections, can expect to eventially become part of Boost (if not -- why?). Providing that no unforseen showstoppers are lurking in the code or concept I'd say I'm fairly optimistic about it becoming an accepted boost component.
I would be interested in seeing some performance numbers though. And I would guess I'm not alone. (This is a C++ crowd after all ;-) ). Providing some, hopefully encouraging, data similar to what Joaquín did in the indexed_set documentation for example would be a good start. My experience is that the deeper sceptics quite often uses performace, rightfully or not, as a means for rejection... ("virtual functions/smart pointers/rtti/STL/streams/ are slow", "templates bloat code" etc..) Finally, as I think David Bergman also expressed in an earlier mail about RTL, it would(will!) be really interesting to see how the interaction with RTL, iterator adaptors, a view lib (like VTL), a sequence-wrapped STL (iterator_range or such) and Lambda functionality will evolve and shape the future C++! Regards // Fredrik Blomqvist
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