I finally got the boost stuff updating.... I downloaded UltraEdit to fix all the root files ... it might be worth paying for the program JUST to have that feature.... it did it in one step in about 4 seconds (609 files updated). so now that I've got that working again I get this when attempting to run bjam in the status sub-directory: C:\Projects\boost>cd status C:\Projects\boost\status>bjam -sTOOLS=vc7.1 1>status.log C:\Projects\boost\status>mgrep (('serror's)`('starget)`(skipped's)) status.log Grep - Version 1.11 Copyright (C) 1986-94, Metadigm, Inc. All Rights Reserved Copyright (C) 2000-2; Victor A. Wagner Jr. All Rights Reserved File: status.log ...found 25149 targets... ...updating 101 targets... C:\Projects\boost\boost\graph\graph_test.hpp(375) : error C2065: 'x' : undeclared identifier C:\Projects\boost\boost\graph\graph_test.hpp(380) : error C3861: 'x': identifier not found, even with argument-dependent lookup C:\Projects\boost\boost\graph\graph_test.hpp(384) : error C3861: 'x': identifier not found, even with argument-dependent lookup ...skipped <@boost!libs!graph!test\subgraph.test\vc7.1\debug>subgraph.CMD for lack of <@boost!libs!graph!test\subgraph.test\vc7.1\debug>subgraph.obj... ...skipped <@boost!libs!graph!test\subgraph.test\vc7.1\debug>subgraph.exe for lack of <@boost!libs!graph!test\subgraph.test\vc7.1\debug>subgraph.CMD... ...skipped <@boost!libs!graph!test\subgraph.test\vc7.1\debug>subgraph.run for lack of <@boost!libs!graph!test\subgraph.test\vc7.1\debug>subgraph.exe... ...failed updating 1 target... ...skipped 4 targets... ...updated 96 targets... =============================================================================================== this is the additional information about the 1st error: ..\libs\graph\test\subgraph.cpp(114) : see reference to function template instantiation 'void boost::graph_test<Graph>::test_vertex_property_graph<int,boost::vertex_color_t>(const std::vector<_Ty> &,PropertyTag,Graph &)' being compiled with [ Graph=subgraph_t, _Ty=int, PropertyTag=boost::vertex_color_t ] ================================================================================================= I'm still unable to access what used to be :ssh:vawjr@cvs.boost-sandbox.sourceforge.net:22:/cvsroot/boost-sandbox here is the relevant info C:\Projects\boost-sandbox>cvs login Logging in to :ssh:vawjr@cvs.sourceforge.net:22:/cvsroot/boost-sandbox CVS password: ******* C:\Projects\boost-sandbox>cvs co -c C:\Projects\boost-sandbox>cvs update -dPA cvs update: Updating . cvs update: failed to create lock directory for `/cvsroot/boost-sandbox/boost-sandbox' (/cvsroot/boost-sandbox/boost-sandbox/#cvs.lock): Permission denied cvs update: failed to obtain dir lock in repository `/cvsroot/boost-sandbox/boost-sandbox' cvs [update aborted]: read lock failed - giving up ======================================================================================================= that cvs co -c doesn't complain leads me to believe that it's working to SOME extent not sure what the permission problem is. Victor A. Wagner Jr. http://rudbek.com The five most dangerous words in the English language: "There oughta be a law"