Hi Rene, On 9/15/06, Rene Rivera <grafikrobot@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry, but I'm going to be rather uncharacteristically apolitically frank...
It's alright. :-)
Dean Michael Berris wrote:
I've attached the initial explorations (one header, and a test implementation). Comments and insights will be most appreciated. :)
Yea... Looks as bad as I feared.
Unfortunately, the implementation might need some work (aesthetically, or even code-wise). However, if the judgement is about the "value(...).should.equal(...)", then I'd like to think it might be a matter of preference. :-D Maybe it might need getting used to... :-) Staring at a whole slew of ASSERT_EQUAL or similar "un-englishlike" constructs along with the C++ constructs gets tiring at times -- much like beer, it's an acquired taste and it gets boring at times. After all, BDD is an alternative or a "language shift" to the traditional TDD approach of "Unit Testing".
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Very interesting indeed. I would think BDD will be very useful in these situations, especially for the developers and even non-technical customers (who feel comfortable with english anyway).
It's a very sad day when people can again think that customers can program. After 25 years of programming this seems to be a recurring false pattern. Having done a stint in knowledge based reasoning AI development I can tell you that there's a very good reason for the term "expert". And for those not familiar with some of the AI aspects in this, unless you are willing to make non-programmers write in Esperanto, you'll be faced with natural language parsing nightmares.
Yeah... But using language that's closer to "natural language" or in this case, English, makes the code/specification readable IMO. If not for the possibility of programmatically generating programmatic specifications (specification metaprogramming?) to even a considerably readable implementation in C++, BDD is Yet Another Testing And Software Engineering Paradigm. :-) -- Dean Michael C. Berris C++ Software Architect Orange and Bronze Software Labs, Ltd. Co. web: http://software.orangeandbronze.com/ email: dean@orangeandbronze.com mobile: +63 928 7291459 phone: +63 2 8943415 other: +1 408 4049532 blogs: http://mikhailberis.blogspot.com http://3w-agility.blogspot.com http://cplusplus-soup.blogspot.com