There are some failures for date_time with CW-9 (and similar errors in CW-8): CW-9.5 on Mac... http://tinyurl.com/bwhsw http://tinyurl.com/93nh4 CW-9.4 on Windows... http://tinyurl.com/75t78 http://tinyurl.com/br2b5 CW-8.3 on Windows... http://tinyurl.com/85nf5 http://tinyurl.com/9gfpn They have this as the reason: "[ J. Garland ] Some older compilers are confused by the template code here. These are new features to date-time in 1.33 and there is no plan to backport to these non-compliant compilers." Now I don't particularly think of CW-9 as an "older" compiler. So is that really the reason? Or is it just that it hasn't been investigated? -- -- Grafik - Don't Assume Anything -- Redshift Software, Inc. - http://redshift-software.com -- rrivera/acm.org - grafik/redshift-software.com -- 102708583/icq - grafikrobot/aim - Grafik/jabber.org