"Victor A. Wagner Jr." <vawjr@rudbek.com> wrote in message news:6.1.0.6.2.20040607070211.0486b980@mail.rudbek.com... | I disagree. with what? It's hard to know when you top-post :-( | specifically I belive we should take the time to write the syntactic sugar | which allows ALL of the current algorithms to accept range<>s (that's the | plural of range<>, not some variable "s"). I can't figure out what that has to do with the discussion :-) I too like range version of std::copy() etc. To recap, I'm saying pair<iterator,iterator> foo( iterator, iterator ); in its range version should be range< Range > foo( Range& ); and not iterator_range< typename iterator_of<Range>::type > foo( Range& ); Pavol disagrees, that makes the situation a 1 against 1 until other people start having an opinion. br Thorsten