----Original Message---- From: Rene Rivera [mailto:grafik.list@redshift-software.com] Sent: 28 April 2005 16:28 To: boost@lists.boost.org Subject: Re: [boost] Re: [website] Oh the fun..
Martin Bonner wrote:
----Original Message---- From: Rene Rivera [mailto:grafik.list@redshift-software.com] Sent: 28 April 2005 03:37 To: boost@lists.boost.org Subject: Re: [boost] Re: [website] Oh the fun..
Please change your posting program so that it doesn't include this superfluous information.
2. I think just about all web designers agree that 800x600 is the minimum one should design for at this time.
Hmm. How about all (boost) USERS?
You should already know that it's impossible to satisfy all users. Sure. But my point was that it is users, not web-designers that matter.
And the various *_ptr discussions should serve as an example. NOOO! This way madness lies :-)
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So why do you need to specify the background colour? I haven't looked at the source, but it looks white on my machine which is the default for my browser.
What makes you assume that everyone has a default background color of white? I certainly don't assume that, nor have my default as white.
What you are saying is to abandon design and leave it entirely to the browser defaults and user settings. Yes, I realize that means abandoning ANY control of colour - I don't think
OK. I have now checked the source. The styles explicitly specify a background of white. I changed my background colour, and the design does NOT respect that. I think it should. that is a bad thing. You can still control layout (and I would like to congratulate you on using %ages and em/pt measurements rather than px measurements).
And please don't assume that the browser developers made perfect, or even good, choices about how to present a web page. That is depressingly true :-(
Like I just said above.. You can turn the CSS *off* and have your browser+user settings prevail. For example with Firefox you can choose the View/Page Style/No Style menu and voila you have your defaults. Ah! THAT was something I didn't know. Cool! That enormously weakens my argument (particulaly given that you have carefully avoided putting style information into the basic HTML).
IMO, Rene's work is superb. Good point Joel. I forgot to mention that didn't I? Sorry Rene - this is all carping at the edges. The overall effect is a big improvement on the
I think colour control probably /does/ make sense here (it allows the inverse banner, and the neat bullets (which are images, not characters). Having said all that: - I would prefer a more conventional appearence for the links (different colour, more striking underline - and I'm not keen on hover highlights [but that's just personal prejudice]). - I agree with the observation that Google has trained me to ignore boxes on the right Joel wrote: main Boost website (which itself is by no means bad). -- Martin Bonner Martin.Bonner@Pitechnology.com Pi Technology, Milton Hall, Ely Road, Milton, Cambridge, CB4 6WZ, ENGLAND Tel: +44 (0)1223 441434