note another issue here. Originally the utf8_codecvt_facet was sort of it's own library. This made a lot of sense since it is used by at least three other libraries: serialization, file_system, and program options. But strident objects were raised about this since it hadn't been reviewed. so it was stuffed into a detail header. But this left a problem as to where to put a test and documentation page for it. Also the question arose as to where to put the source code for it. The library was made as a template and instatiated by each library which uses it. I required at least minimal testing and documentation so I put this stuff into a section of the serialization library. Not a good situation - a lot messier than it has to be. This needs to be a "real" library with it's independent documentation and tests. Robert Ramey