Re: [boost] [gsoc] Getting started with a repository (Was: Re: Live read-only GIT mirrors of Boost trunk SVN)

I vote for Paul's argument. It's better if there is a new repo for the GSOCs where they can work. And, the important changes are made to the main repo. On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Paul A. Bristow wrote:

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-----Original Message----- From: Boost [mailto:boost-bounces@lists.boost.org] On Behalf Of Darren Garvey Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:47 PM To: boost@lists.boost.org Cc: Dave Abrahams; Stjepan Rajko Subject: [boost] [gsoc] Getting started with a repository (Was: Re: Live read-only GIT mirrors of Boost trunk SVN)

Following on from an earlier discussion...

On 4 May 2013 20:00, Stefan Seefeld wrote:

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On 05/04/2013 01:25 PM, Dave Abrahams wrote:

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on Sat May 04 2013, Stefan Seefeld wrote:

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it would be great if the sandbox could be converted quickly, so GSoC students can use it ? We don't expect anyone to commit to https://github.com/boostorg/sandbox once the transition is complete. In fact, it would be good to stop now. Instead, people should use individual Git repositories.

OK, that makes sense. So sanbox projects become entirely independent with the only dependency being some upstream boost version (which may correspond to either a release or a development version).

So, students can assume that users have boost installed on their machine in a standard location, and can set up a separate git repository for their project. Great.

I remember there used to be a template in the sandbox for getting started; all I see right now is this:

http://svn.boost.org/svn/boost/sandbox/template_under_construction/

It looks like it's the right kind of thing, but is this still under_construction (cc'ing Stjepan)? It seems to produce a basic set of directories, Jamfiles, etc. when following these steps:

svn co http://svn.boost.org/svn/boost/sandbox/template_under_construction/ cd template_under_construction python file_template.py sandbox # Answer some question prompts

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It would be great if they didn't need to learn a thousand tools before

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being able to focus on the project itself, and so having a well-defined and -documented process to set things up and get started would be very helpful. I don't know what you mean here, sorry.

Never mind. I was thinking of a mix of versioning tools used for sandbox projects, boost trunk, etc., causing an unnecessarily steep learning curve. But if individual projects are to be hosted separately anyhow, that's much less of a concern (though it would still be useful to have clear and up-to-date guidelines for directory layout, build system, etc., to make it easier to merge to trunk should we ever get this far).

Is setting up Jamroot / Jamfiles still the recommended way of getting started?

Probably but ...

I think the GIT team should make a decision NOW about whether GSOC students should use GIT or not.

I think I'm against this, on the grounds that there is a lot to go wrong, and much critical students Google-time, especially with those who may be even ranker amateurs than me ;-)

Unless there is a firm commitment from the GIT team to support students using GIT, then I think they should stick to boost-sandbox and do things "the old way".

Views from the GIT team?

Paul

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