Re: [boost] The future and present of Boost

-----Original Message----- From: Boost [mailto:boost-bounces@lists.boost.org] On Behalf Of degski via Boost Sent: 23 October 2018 09:37 To: boost Cc: degski; Robert Ramey Subject: Re: [boost] The future and present of Boost

On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 10:07, Miguel Ojeda via Boost wrote:

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On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 8:27 PM Robert Ramey via Boost wrote:

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On 10/22/18 10:13 AM, Mike Dev via Boost wrote:

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Interesting point to think about: If you look at how standardization of communication protocols work (e.g. USB, Wifi PCI), they don't

standardize

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established practice at all.

True, but their not standardizing any practice. They don't approve code or APIS etc. The leave that to someone else. They stick to the legitimate goals of standardization.

I believe that one of the original goals is to "standardize existing practice" and perhaps they shouldn't do that. One thing that they do which no one else can do is specify language syntax and semantics. Expanding too far beyond this essential function can compromise the successful accomplishment of that very function.

The problem is defining that "too far beyond this essential function". Is it unique_ptr? Ranges? 2D graphics?

Well, in respect of the 2D Graphics proposal(s), I don't get it. There is a perfectly good (C++, cross platform, mature) 2D Framework [SFML] available, which seems to have been discarded from the block. No, instead we're gonna get [probably] some poofed up C thingy, which does not even allow you to write that little 2D Game [because we need a mouse, a window, touch, sound (formats), image formats, etc etc].

+1, but I failed to persuade the British Standards C++ group that this was precisely the sort of thing that WG21 should NOT be doing (but Boost might but hasn't). I put the highest priority for WG21 on Herb Sutters et al proposal to formally specify the language (effectively in C++ (C++++?) itself) rather than continue to fumble with language standardese that you can't automatically reason about. Boost still has a valuable role as a discoverer of language enhancements that are needed. Paul --- Paul A. Bristow Prizet Farmhouse Kendal UK LA8 8AB +44 (0) 1539 561830