I have NO idea what criteria build_monitor uses to killing processes, but when I awoke this morning, it had managed to kill: the dnet "run in the background" ORG process, Pirch (my IRC client), a proxy that lets me get dcc's through my hardware firewall, Trillian (the instant message program), SpyBot resident..... I think you get the picture. this thing just walked through my system like a hoard of Vandals (or was it Visigoths). whatever DO NO RUN THIS PROGRAM ON YOUR SYSTEM UNTIL IT'S FIXED my results will be delayed as a result of my stopping the -monitored tests because I'll have to manually click through the modal dialogs (may their creator roast in hell) so the tests will finish. Victor A. Wagner Jr. http://rudbek.com The five most dangerous words in the English language: "There oughta be a law"