
Doug Gregor [mailto:dgregor@cs.indiana.edu] wrote:
Somebody wrote:
It looks like some code isn't handling the improved "long double" type very well.... (With Mac OS X Tiger 10.4 and GCC 4, the "long double" type is finally distinct and bigger than "double". The pre-Tiger warnings about not using "long double" are obviously removed. But it looks like the "double" version of "exp" is being used. Taking a quick look at a system "math.h"...
I've traced through this, and the right "exp" is getting called. The machine epsilon for long double is:
4.9406564584124654417656879286822137236505980261432476442558568250067550 727020875e-324
Are you sure that's right? That implies a 1074-bit mantissa. That's a VERY long double! (It is also a rather odd sized one. In such a large type, I would expect the mantissa to be an exact number of bytes - or mantissa+sign to be an exact number of bytes). That value looks much more reasonable for the smallest non-zero value of long double. (I am assuming that by epsilon you mean the smallest values such that 1+epsilon != 1, rather than the smallest value such that epsilon > 0).
There's no *way* we'll get that much accuracy out of the C library's sin/atan/cos/etc. Here's the result of a little program that prints out atan(1), 4*atan(1), and sin(4*atan(1)). There isn't a large enough improvement in precision from "double" to "long double":
atan(1) with float = 0.785398185253143310546875 4*atan(1) with float = 3.1415927410125732421875 sin(4*atan(1)) with float = -8.74227765734758577309548854827880859375e-08 atan(1) with double = 0.78539816339744827899949086713604629039764404296875 4*atan(1) with double = 3.141592653589793115997963468544185161590576171875 sin(4*atan(1)) with double = 1.224606353822377258211417938582599163055419921875e-16 atan(1) with long double = 0.7853981633974483096282022398515465511081856675446033477783203125 4*atan(1) with long double = 3.14159265358979323851280895940618620443274267017841339111328125 sin(4*atan(1)) with long double = -5.42101086242752217003726400434970855712890625e-20
If long double is actually 80 bits (which is the usual Intel interpretation), that looks plausible.
I don't even think that we can call this a platform bug; we just can't expect the C library routines to have that kind of precision.
If long double really is >1kbits, I don't see why the C runtime shouldn't support them.
I think we should consider long double tests on this platform bogus and disable them.
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