"David Abrahams" <dave@boost-consulting.com> wrote in message news:871wpxi1vb.fsf@pereiro.luannocracy.com...
"Andy Little" <andy@servocomm.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
"David Abrahams" <dave@boost-consulting.com> wrote in message news:87wt7pjr73.fsf@pereiro.luannocracy.com...
Variadics is a separate feature from what ConceptGCC provides. I know variadics are generating a lot of well-earned excitement, but think ConceptGCC really deserves more attention.
Sure, but I for one have some trepidation about applying Concepts to everything. The main issue that worries me is that checking everything is going to be very slow.
You seem to have that concern often, and often prematurely.
I often have that concern and often it's true :-). In the case of Fusion. I need the library to create matrices which work with types other than double.
And I am not sure I totally agree.
If you're disagreeing, I think it's because I wasn't clear. I meant that "ConceptGCC really deserves more attention than it is currently getting."
OK. The first question is... why? I think I can answer that for myself, but what is in it for the broader audience? For myself an important issue is that I am, due to inertia, compiler bound. I love VC7.1. I love the IDE. (IIRC you call this ' screen scraping', but that's your problem). So that is a hurdle that ConceptGCC has to face for someone like me. I have my "comp.bat" file set up for checking that stuff compiles with gcc, but for effortless coding, I head straight for VC7.1. IOW your compiler/IDE has a great deal of power over what you do And , maybe ConceptGCC has a similar 'problem'(It's not really a problem) to the one I have with Quan, but probably more severe, in that most people are bound to old C style libraries, which frankly don't have a hope of compiling with ConceptGCC, due to the average *useful* 'Hack' optimisation's that have been applied. It's simply inertia again. I think what C++ needs most of all, is a standard GUI, because with that, it would be easy to plug ConceptGCC, the compiler, into a standard IDE. And with a standard IDE, it would be quite easy to apply a couple of switches to switch compilers... So, of all the libraries that C++ should have, I think that a standard GUI is the most important, because it would be so much easier to try out and demonstrate major changes to C++. Simply put, ConceptGCC needs a nice UI to show it off, and its a bit sad that C++ has no way to provide that. I guess that is the root of the problem. ( And I am currently concerned with trying to make some inroads into that problem) regards Andy Little