Robert Ramey wrote:
Vladimir Prus wrote:
As of recent, we had quite a lot of discussion about process. In true open-source spirit, it was a fairly open discussion, with everybody offering their perspectives and experience. However, while we surely learned many things, it does not seem like we're going anywhere.
For a quick experiment, I tried to assess whether the discussion actually reflects the needs of Boost developers, so I created a table of Boost developers sorted by the number of commits in 2010. It is here:
It seems that 5 top Boost comitters did not participate much in recent discussions. And going down the list, it seems like many of active developers did not say anything, while most of discussions is fueled by folks who don't commit much.
Of course, everybody can offer valuable thoughts, but if the goal is to fix things for Boost developers, it would make sense if developers say that needs fixing, as opposed to other people doing it for them.
Maybe I suggest that for some time, we outright ban freeform discussion about process, and instead, we restrict them to threads started by a Boost developers and saying this: "I am maintainer of X, and had N commits and M trac changes in the last year. I most hate P1, P2 and P3. I would propose that we use T1, T2, and T3 to fix that". Then, everybody could join to suggest better way of fixing P1, P2 and P3 -- without making up other supposed problems.
Thoughts?
I thought about this some more. I understand your point. Thinking about this maybe there is something we CAN do. We currently have a review process with review manager, etc. .... This has worked quite well for accepting libraries. The review manager's job is to lend some structure to the discussion, try to forge a concensus. weigh all the input (not necessarily equally), and arrive at a decision. I suggest that we engage in the same process structure for making a very large tool change.
Okay, then we only need to pick a: - review manager, to lead a review that will select, - review manager, to lead a review that will select, - ... - review manager, to lead a review that will select, - the version control system That's so simple! ;-) -- Vladimir Prus Mentor Graphics +7 (812) 677-68-40