This is probably going to piss some people off, but what the hay... I was truly disappointed, myself, about Concepts being postponed until future notice, but then starting thinking about why this is all taking so long? I mean, the C# people come out with language changes every couple of years without any fuss or muss. But the C++ masterminds, I mean all those guys with PHD's as well as the programming gurus, cannot figure out the next stage after 10 years. What's going on? Does it really matter what comes out of this committee? I don't care as long as I have something better, and I don't think the compiler writers care either; they're just waiting for something, anything. Maybe I'm not seeing the big picture, but I'm starting to think the committee is overdoing it. -Sid