At 03:01 2006-01-30, David Abrahams wrote:
"Victor A. Wagner Jr." <vawjr@rudbek.com> writes:
At 09:24 2006-01-27, you wrote:
"Robert Ramey" <ramey@rrsd.com> writes:
David Abrahams wrote:
"Robert Ramey" <ramey@rrsd.com> writes:
The lack of atomic changes to the trunk and to branches makes it very difficult to capture a point in time when everything is passing.
Exactly - that's the problem.
That is solved by SVN.
I wouldn't bet on it (well capturing the instant is how SVN works), but it's irrelevant anyhow. if you only "release" what on HEAD it doesn't matter than you cannot synch w/ branches.
I keep asking, if you only release what's on HEAD, how do you do point releases?
what's the "meaning" of a "point" release anyhow? release numbers (names) are a marketing concept (so the collateral material can be produced). They've _never_ had any relevance to software (other than some loose conventions which caused more problems than they were worth)
And anyway, why this obsession with HEAD? In SVN, it's just another branch.
In SVN, iirc, "numbers" are even further removed from any meaningful relationship for a "release"... but as for the "obsession" it's actually just a desire to keep people's fingers out of the regression testing process. The more you make people mess with things, the more likely you'll have an error. One of the points of automated testing is that you warp the development system so the test system doesn't have to be massaged every time something changes.
I've been saying for a little over a decade that dropping the "state" from CVS was a mistake and this hammers it home more than anything I've seen...but it's gone. One trusts that the Subversion folks weren't as blind.
Sorry, I don't know what you mean.
http://wwwipd.ira.uka.de/~tichy/ the man who started it all, with RCS reading what he had in mind back in the beginning (and implemented) is instructive.
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