On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:35 PM, John Maddock <boost.regex@virgin.net> wrote:
Maybe I suggest that for some time, we outright ban freeform discussion about process, and instead, we restrict them to threads started by a Boost developers and saying this: "I am maintainer of X, and had N commits and M trac changes in the last year. I most hate P1, P2 and P3. I would propose that we use T1, T2, and T3 to fix that". Then, everybody could join to suggest better way of fixing P1, P2 and P3 -- without making up other supposed problems.
Thoughts?
Not to sound like a sour grape, but this is precisely the attitude that makes the Boost project so unwelcoming. Sometimes I wonder why I personally even bother trying to contribute.
Ugh?
/me should have a better thought to writing translator... What I meant here is that: Boost seems unwelcoming at first because of the "rules" and even the notion of "banning discussions". This hasn't stopped me from trying to contribute and therefore I wonder why it hasn't (maybe it's me).
I think the thing is this: most folks around here just don't really care about tools - they really don't - they just want to "get stuff done".
I thought because people want to get stuff done that they would care about the tools they use and whether they're using the right tool or whether the tools are making them effective.
Please bare in mind too that if the effort that has been expended on this discussion had been expended on bug fixing instead, we could have got an awful lot done...
Hmmm... See, I would agree with you except that there's currently just so many hands/people to fix things, and those who want to be able to help see this barrier of having to go through Trac and checking out with SVN and waiting for the network updates to finish. The only reason we're even having this discussion about the process and the tools is because some contributor wannabe like me feels this drag when I try to make progress on some front. I have access to the Sandbox sure, but even working on the sandbox now is just painful for me compared to how I deal with the development of cpp-netlib which is on git. Note at the same time I complain I send in the patches through Trac/ML anyway. I'm just saying it could all be so much easier than the way it's going now and short of suggesting a different process, I don't see how I can help accomplish that goal of making things much easier to do. HTH -- Dean Michael Berris about.me/deanberris