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Re: [Function] Implemented operator== and operator!=
by Raoul Gough 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

<#part type="text/plain" filename="d:/TEMP/gcc_296_err.txt" disposition=attachment description="g++ 2.96 compiler output"> <#/part> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.3 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:mbn75GX0BrE0mKdP1bjMm9VxSrg= Douglas Gregor <gregod(a)cs.rpi.edu> writes: > On Tuesday 20 January 2004 01:29 pm, Douglas Gregor wrote: >> On the main branch, I've implemented operator== and operator!= for >> Boost.Function (but not in the form you expect). > > It's now documented. > > I've also checked in some changes to handle reference_wrapper logically: I just tried upgrading to the CVS mainline and got an internal compiler error in function_template.hpp when compiling one of the Python lib modules with gcc 2.96 linux. Reverting to RC_1_31_0 fixes the error. Recent lossage? /foo/boost/boost/python/errors.hpp:29: instantiated from `boost::python::handle_exception (T) [with T = void (*) ()]' /foo/boost/boost/python/errors.hpp:36: instantiated from here /foo/boost/boost/function/function_template.hpp:511: Internal error #373. /foo/boost/boost/function/function_template.hpp:511: confused by earlier errors, bailing out Compiler bug is documented at: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=57466 See attachment for more compiler output. -- Raoul Gough. export LESS='-X'

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Graph: edge(u,v,g) isn't O(log(E/V)) as promised
by Alan Stokes 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

For an adjaceny_list which uses sets for its edges, edge(u, v, g) is supposed to be O(log(E/V)), as you would expect for a lookup in a set. (See http://www.boost.org/libs/graph/doc/using_adjacency_list.html#sec:choosing-….) But in fact it is linear in the number of out edges. This is because in graph/detail/adjacency_list.hpp (line 1325 in revision 1.113), in the edge_dispatch function that handles the disallow_parallel_edge_tag case, the code reads: i = std::find(g.out_edge_list(u).begin(), g.out_edge_list(u).end(), StoredEdge(v)), when it should probably be: i = g.out_edge_list(u).find(StoredEdge(v)), as it was in revisions 1.59 and previous. As an aside, it's not that obvious from the documentation that adjacency_list supports edge(u, v, g). AFAICT it's defined only in the AdjacencyMatrix concept, which adjacency_list is not documented as being a model of. [This is a repost - the original was in message 31695 on the 21st of January. But I foolishly reported two different problems with the same subject & in the same thread, only one of which was addressed. I'm assuming the other one was overlooked and so repeating it. I apologise if this assumption is incorrect.] - Alan

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value_initialized added to libraries.htm
by Fernando Cacciola 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

Both on the main trunk and 1.31.0 RC2 Fernando Cacciola SciSoft

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boost_1_31_rc2 - documentation glitches in tools/build/v2/
by Bronek Kozicki 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

1. GIF picture is corrupted: boost_1_31_0_rc2\tools\build\v2\c++boost.gif 2. two HTML files have bad "src" path to this picture: boost_1_31_0_rc2\tools\build\v2\doc\architecture.html boost_1_31_0_rc2\tools\build\v2\doc\extending.html B.

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Who is the current maintainer of boost.thread?
by Roland 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

Some weeks ago Michael Glassford posted a question about the same subject. But as far as I can remeber without any answer. Did I miss something? Mike stated, that the original author silently disappeared from the list. The last relevant CVS commits have been done by a person named bill_kempf 11 months ago. Is this just a nickname for William Kempf? I like to restate the question, and also would offer to spend some of my time for helping in maintainance of the thread library. The submission_process.htm page also deals with Lifecycle, and says: "If you no longer can or wish to maintain your library, please post a message on the Boost developers mailing list and help someone else take over as the library maintainer." Does this also imply, that the only way to deal with an obviously silent maintainer, is to submit a totally new review request for a replacement library to move on with an otherwise stalled library? Regards, Roland

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[graph] RC_1_31_0 bfs VC++ 7.1 failing metacomm only
by Beman Dawes 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

graph bfs VC++ 7.1 is passing on my machine but failing at runtime in Metacomm's tests. The only output is "EXIT STATUS: 666". Any ideas? --Beman

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RE: [boost] Boost.Thread request: event object
by Sean Kelly 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Hurd, Matthew wrote: > > So are you saying that multiple threads calling WaitForSingleObject for > the same event is not safe or is the lack of safety elsewhere in the > windows event mechanism. I wouldn't mind a source url or something for > this if you have one so I can come up to speed. Aside from the papers linked to in the Boost.Thread documentation, the best thing to do is search comp.programming.threads for "windows" and "event." The discussion has come up there quite a few times, including some of the original talk about the Boost.Thread implementation. Alexander Terekhov (from this list) is involved in most of the discussions so you could search on his name as well. One such link is here: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=3e2ae910%240%245… By the way, I'm not saying that WaitForMultipleObjects is broken so much as that Windows events seem to be broken once you get beyond the fairly simple cases. Waiting on a mutex in Windows uses the WaitForObject calls as well, so I don't think the function itself is at issue. > I think WSFU if a crimson herring, best to forget about it. I don't think I'd ever want to require a customer to install WSFU to use my application, but from the documentation it seems quite solid. Rather than Win32 wrappers (ala Cygwin) it's actually an entire subsystem that contains a full posix implementation. I haven't done much more than skim the docs, but it's at least worth some play-time. As for the rest... I like to come to my own conclusions and an still reading up on the details in my rather limited free time. I will freely admit that I would be more likely to use the Boost condvar implementation everywhere rather than in just the complcated cases if I could safely do away with a large chunk of the code. I guess what I want is for someone to prove to me that the solution really does need to be as complex as it seems :) Sean

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RE: [boost] Re: Re: Boost.Thread : IO multiplexing
by Darryl Green 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

> -----Original Message----- > From: Jeremy Maitin-Shepard [mailto:jbms@attbi.com] > I may be mistaken, but it seems that the new asynchronous I/O > completion system at least currently cannot be used with sockets. You are correct - I thought I saw a changelist somewhere that said otherwise but I must have been dreaming... Regards Darryl. ########################################################################## This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimise the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. ##########################################################################

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by darin＠bentspoon.com 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

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RE: [boost] Re: Re: Boost.Thread : IO multiplexing
by Hurd, Matthew 30 Jan '04

30 Jan '04

> On Behalf Of Sean Kelly > > What remains an issue in my mind is how far to take this. Socket and > file classes for each platform at least... what else? Waitable timers would be the other "main" one I'd guess. Some process abstractions might be straight forward for "kill" signals and the windows equivalent. I would still like to see mutexes, timers, socket i/o and file i/o all with similar acquisition concepts so there is a hope of marrying them down the track if it is not done up front. The other thing I'd like to see is a substitutable framework, like the synch stuff I posted a while ago, where you can develop to a particular policy concept, for example a shareable mutex, then substitute a single threaded or null mutex or anything else in. ACE has had something similar for many years and it is straight forward. The current interface does not support such use AFAICT, hence the synch wrapper I use. I'd be happy to document and clean this up if there is interest. Regards, Matt Hurd. IMPORTANT: The information contained in this email and/or its attachments is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by reply and immediately delete this message and all its attachments. Any review, use, reproduction, disclosure or dissemination of this message or any attachment by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. Neither this message nor any attachment is intended as or should be construed as an offer, solicitation or recommendation to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument. Neither the sender, his or her employer nor any of their respective affiliates makes any warranties as to the completeness or accuracy of any of the information contained herein or that this message or any of its attachments is free of viruses.

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:Guess_Toolset in build.bat failed for mingw. Failed even correctthis one. please help as well.
by Herbert Yu 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

Not sure now. I downloaded version 1.30.2 of boost. The build.bat file in {root}\tools\build\jam_src cannot work correctly with mingw as it says. First I have to add following to build.bat for it can guess mingw call :Test_Path gcc.exe if not errorlevel 1 ( set BOOST_JAM_TOOLSET=mingw set BOOST_JAM_TOOLSET_ROOT=%FOUND_PATH%..\ goto :eof) setlocal & endlocal It guess first? Should use my environment first! I have set both BOOST_JAM_TOOLSET and TOOLS! set TOOLS=mingw Set BOOST_JAM_TOOLSET=mingw Even build.bat can guess my mingw, it failed as following: execunix.c: In function `execcmd': execunix.c:214: warning: passing arg 3 of `spawnvp' from incompatible pointer type C:\DOCUME~1\hyu\LOCALS~1\Temp/ccKYiaaa.o(.text+0x12f):timestamp.c: undefined reference to `file_time' C:\DOCUME~1\hyu\LOCALS~1\Temp/ccKYiaaa.o(.text+0x2cd):timestamp.c: undefined reference to `file_archscan' C:\DOCUME~1\hyu\LOCALS~1\Temp/ccKYiaaa.o(.text+0x315):timestamp.c: undefined reference to `file_dirscan' C:\DOCUME~1\hyu\LOCALS~1\Temp/ccCOkaaa.o(.text+0x131c):builtins.c: undefined reference to `file_dirscan' gcc -o bin.mingwx86\jam -DNDEBUG -DOPT_HEADER_CACHE_EXT -DOPT_GRAPH_DEBUG_EXT -DOP T_SEMAPHORE -DOPT_FIX_TARGET_VARIABLES_EXT -DOPT_IMPROVED_PATIENCE_EXT -DYYSTACKSIZE=5000 -s -O3 -finline-functions -DMINGW command.c compile.c exp and.c glob.c hash.c hcache.c headers.c hdrmacro.c jam.c jambase.c jamgram.c lists.c make.c make1.c newstr.c option.c parse.c regexp.c rules.c scan.c search.c subst.c timestamp.c variable.c modules.c strings.c filesys.c builtins.c pwd.c execunix.c fileunix.c pathunix.c ...failed .cc bin.mingwx86\jam... ...failed updating 1 target... ...updated 2 targets... Can anyone help me? I am not on the list. Please reply to my email address as well. Thanks Herbert Yu

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lightweight mutex for MacOS
by Martin Taylor 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

Hi I would like to put forward an implementation of a lightweight mutex for MacOS. I have tested it with shared_ptr_mt_test.cpp without problem. It's fairly short, so I hope you don't mind me posting it directly here for review. I should add also that I didn't really write this code (that's not a disclaimer - Howard Hinnant cooked it up after I asked the Codewarrior newsgroup for help!) Anyway, here's the code: #if __MACH__ #include <sched.h> #else #include <Multiprocessing.h> #endif namespace boost { namespace detail { class lightweight_mutex { private: volatile int a_; lightweight_mutex(lightweight_mutex const &); lightweight_mutex & operator=(lightweight_mutex const &); public: lightweight_mutex(): a_(0) { } class scoped_lock; friend class scoped_lock; class scoped_lock { private: lightweight_mutex & m_; scoped_lock(scoped_lock const &); scoped_lock & operator=(scoped_lock const &); void yield_thread() { #if __MACH__ sched_yield(); #else MPYield(); #endif } public: explicit scoped_lock(lightweight_mutex & m); ~scoped_lock() { m_.a_ = 0; } }; }; inline lightweight_mutex::scoped_lock::scoped_lock(lightweight_mutex & m) : m_(m) { register volatile int *p = &m_.a_; register int f; register int one = 1; asm { loop: lwarx f, 0, p cmpwi f, 0 bne- yield stwcx. one, 0, p beq+ done } yield: yield_thread(); goto loop; done: ; } } // namespace detail } // namespace boost Martin

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Gmane archive problems
by Gennaro Prota 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

FYI, this is a notice that appears at the top of Gmane's homepage (http://gmane.org) ------------- Problems January 29th 2004: By mistake Gmane ran an expiry process last night, which means that most of the articles are gone from the spool. They are now being rescued from backup, but this process will likely take a few days. ------------------- Genny.

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Re: 1.31.0 Release candidate 2 available - some nitpicks
by Baptiste Lepilleur 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel de Guzman" <joel(a)boost-consulting.com> To: "Baptiste Lepilleur" <blepctc(a)free.fr> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 11:53 AM Subject: Re: 1.31.0 Release candidate 2 available - some nitpicks > Baptiste Lepilleur wrote: > > >>>Joel de Guzman wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Pavel Vozenilek wrote: > >>>> > >> > >>[...] > >>I see no empty blank lines. Could someone else please confirm this? > > > > > > Line ending of all HTML files of spirit are of the form '\r\r\n' (just look > > at them with a binary editor). It's likely the result of a checking in unix > > file format from a windows platform (or something like that). You need to > > run some tools to fix line endings. > > That's actually the first thing that I did. Check out the link I > gave [http://tinyurl.com/2tokp] See if you can find double \r. > As I said, I think the problem is with the zip file. The CVS version > is clean. You're correct, but the line endings of the CVS are already wrong. They are '\r\n' (dos), but the cvs is running on a linux box, it should be '\n'... When it get checked out on windows, '\n' becomes '\r\n' and therefore '\r\n' becomes '\r\r\n'. Running a line ending clean up tools to conform the local platform, and checking the files back in would fix the issue. Baptiste. > > Regards, > -- > Joel de Guzman > http://www.boost-consulting.com > http://spirit.sf.net >

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1_31_0_rc2 python2.3 warning (nit)
by Neal D. Becker 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

Any use of 1_31_0_rc2 with python2.3 gives: /usr/include/python2.3/pyconfig.h:847:1: warning: "_POSIX_C_SOURCE" redefined In file included from /usr/include/limits.h:26, from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/3.3.2/include/limits.h:122, from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/3.3.2/include/syslimits.h:7, from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/3.3.2/include/limits.h:11, from /usr/local/src/boost_1_31_0_rc2/boost/python/detail/wrap_python.hpp:27, from /usr/local/src/boost_1_31_0_rc2/boost/python/detail/prefix.hpp:13, from /usr/local/src/boost_1_31_0_rc2/boost/python/class.hpp:9, from /usr/local/src/boost_1_31_0_rc2/boost/python/suite/indexing/indexing_suite.hpp:10, from /usr/local/src/boost_1_31_0_rc2/boost/python/suite/indexing/vector_indexing_suite.hpp:10, from Test.cc:1:

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Re: [boost] Re: 1.31.0 Release candidate 2 available - some nitpicks
by Reece Dunn 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

Joel de Guzman wrote: >Pavel Vozenilek wrote: >>2. Spirit 1.8 docs: each line in code snippets is appended >> by empty line. Seems as CSS problem (unless its feature). > >Hmmm... which code snippets? I can't find them. I have had a look at the docs. For example, libs/spirit/doc/scanner.html has the following code snippet: template< typename IteratorT = char const*, typename PoliciesT = scanner_policies<> > class scanner; The problem is in the html sources where every line is folloowed by a blank line, e.g.: <html> <head> <title>The Scanner and Parsing</title> ... -- this seems to be a problem with the HTML code generator. Regards, Reece _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger

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bjam docs for boost developers?
by Jeremy Siek 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

Hi All, Are there bjam docs for boost developers that explain how to write a Jamfile in the style of the Jamfiles in the existing boost libraries? I already know about: http://www.boost.org/tools/build/jam_src/index.html but that doesn't cover stuff like "run" and "compile" and "link-fail". -Jeremy ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------- Jeremy Siek http://php.indiana.edu/~jsiek/ Ph.D. Student, Indiana Univ. B'ton email: jsiek(a)osl.iu.edu C++ Booster (http://www.boost.org) office phone: (812) 856-1820 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----------------

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boost_1_31_0_rc2 link check results
by Neal D. Becker 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

LinkChecker 1.10.3 Copyright ?2000-2004 Bastian Kleineidam LinkChecker comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY! This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions. Look at the file `LICENSE' within this distribution. Get the newest version at http://linkchecker.sourceforge.net/ Write comments and bugs to calvin(a)users.sourceforge.net Start checking at 2004-01-29 09:11:04-004 URL http://www.boost.org/LICENSE_1_0.txt Name www.boost.org/LICENSE_1_0.txt Parent URL file:///usr/local/src/boost_1_31_0_rc2/index.htm, line 465, col 21 Real URL http://www.boost.org/LICENSE_1_0.txt Check Time 0.253 seconds Result Error: 404 Not Found Thats it. 1 error in 129 links found Stopped checking at 2004-01-29 09:11:19-004 ( 14.760 seconds)

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RE: [boost] Re: Re: Boost.Thread : IO multiplexing
by Hurd, Matthew 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

> On Behalf Of Sean Kelly > Subject: Re: [boost] Re: Re: Boost.Thread : IO multiplexing > > IOCP works for both file and socket operations. Perhaps not a poll > method but I'm not much interested in the low-end solutions anyway. Small point. Please don't knock the pollster ;-) Polling trades CPU for latency gain. Polling is a high end solution for low latency requirements, which covers a lot of my issues (not the psychological ones though ;-)). Not so good for high throughput systems, but it can be. A combined approach, poll for a while you can then wait for an interrupt ( a bit like spin-locks ), can be especially beneficial for supercomputer oriented frameworks as plenty of research shows. A polling, single threaded architecture is often best for the style of performance oriented apps I develop. I have also seen some neat SAN software developed with polling that wouldn't have otherwise worked at all well. Regards, Matt Hurd. IMPORTANT: The information contained in this email and/or its attachments is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by reply and immediately delete this message and all its attachments. Any review, use, reproduction, disclosure or dissemination of this message or any attachment by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. Neither this message nor any attachment is intended as or should be construed as an offer, solicitation or recommendation to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument. Neither the sender, his or her employer nor any of their respective affiliates makes any warranties as to the completeness or accuracy of any of the information contained herein or that this message or any of its attachments is free of viruses.

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Index.html for 1.31.0 and spirit
by Russell Hind 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

Is the index.html complete for 1.31.0? I think something could be mentioned for spirit as to what version it is now, and also the fact that it nolonger supports bcc32 compilers just to give people a warning that they are best to stick with 1.30.2 if they use spirit and borland compilers. (Or replace the spirit directory with the one from 1.30.2) Cheers Russell

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[1.31 RC2, format] BCB problem
by Pavel Vozenilek 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

Borland C++ 6, patch 4, format_implementation.hpp: template< class Ch, class Tr> basic_format<Ch, Tr>& basic_format<Ch, Tr>:: operator= (const basic_format& x) { if(this == &x) return *this; (basic_format(x)).swap(*this); <<<=== here it fails return *this; } [C++ Error] format_implementation.hpp(93): E2102 Cannot use template 'basic_format<Ch,Tr>' without specifying specialization parameters Adding template parameters helped here: (basic_format<Ch, Tr>(x)).swap(*this); /Pavel

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Re: [boost] Re: Re: Boost.Thread : IO multiplexing
by Roland 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

(Michael Glassford <glassfordm(a)hotmail.com>) wrote: > Sean Kelly wrote: > > I'm not sure that much if anything would need to be done to provide > > support for IO multiplexing in Boost. ... > That, of course, would be the best solution. Have you looked at the > code in the orignal post to see if such a solution would solve his > problem? > ... > > I guess the question > > becomes, is there a need for such an IO library in Boost? The > nature > > of the project would demand a good bit of custom code for each > > platform, which isn't typical of Boost components. I have been off for a few days now, and I like to see that I have arrived at the very same conclusions than you. 1) I believe now that most likely everything can be done with boost.thread as is (question still is performance) 2) I used an approach as 1 thread / WFMO instead beeing able to directly wait on condvars _and_ IO simulateneously. (Altough this approach isn't easily portable, as it contains a lot of platform dependencies. Also this approach does not scale very well for the multiplexing case since WMFO/select scenarios are limited in the number of waitable things. This is where IO completion should enter the scene.) 3) I agree that the real question should be whether there should be a such an IO library in boost. Personally I would vote for such a thing, perhaps based on already existing "C" async_io libs, much like the pthreads lib. If anyone is interseted I could try to post my files, but I am not sure where I should post them since they are more a bit of example appliaction code than library code. Would the boost files area be adequate? Roland

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Re: [boost] 1.31.0 Release candidate 2 available
by Jeremy Siek 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

Hi Beman, On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Beman Dawes wrote: bdawes> Good catch! adj-matrix-graph2.gif, subgraph.gif, and bdawes> undir-adj-matrix-graph2.gif are checked in a regular rather than binary bdawes> files. bdawes> bdawes> Jeremy? Ok, I think I got those fixed. Also, I fixed the bad figure references in adjacency_list.html and adjacency_matrix.html. Cheers, Jeremy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeremy Siek http://php.indiana.edu/~jsiek/ Ph.D. Student, Indiana Univ. B'ton email: jsiek(a)osl.iu.edu C++ Booster (http://www.boost.org) office phone: (812) 856-1820 ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: [boost] Boost.Thread request: event object
by Hurd, Matthew 29 Jan '04

29 Jan '04

> On Behalf Of Daryle Walker > Subject: Re: [boost] Boost.Thread request: event object > > >> > >> if( lock const& l = lock(guard,t)) > > > > I like this last one, though I suspect I'll end up with > > > > if (lock lk(guard,t)) > > > > in my code as it will be the first thing I'll think of. > [TRUNCATE] > > Did you see my last message in this thread? I said that the rules of C++ > _FORBID_ creation of multiple objects and/or use of the constructor call > syntax when using object creation with the condition of an "if" or > "while". > The single object syntax with "=" is the only one allowed. > > -- > Daryle Walker Quite right. My sloppiness. Thanks Daryle. Matt Hurd. IMPORTANT: The information contained in this email and/or its attachments is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by reply and immediately delete this message and all its attachments. Any review, use, reproduction, disclosure or dissemination of this message or any attachment by an unintended recipient is strictly prohibited. Neither this message nor any attachment is intended as or should be construed as an offer, solicitation or recommendation to buy or sell any security or other financial instrument. Neither the sender, his or her employer nor any of their respective affiliates makes any warranties as to the completeness or accuracy of any of the information contained herein or that this message or any of its attachments is free of viruses.

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The quick_allocator not-a-memory-leak
by Darren Cook 28 Jan '04

28 Jan '04

I've a class using the boost quick_allocator like this: class Chain{ //... void* operator new(std::size_t sz){ return boost::detail::quick_allocator<Chain>::alloc(sz); } void operator delete(void *p,std::size_t sz){ boost::detail::quick_allocator<Chain>::dealloc(p,sz); } //... }; I've started using valgrind ( http://valgrind.kde.org/ ) to look for memory problems in my unit tests and it is complaining that the memory is never released. Now I understand this: // "Listen to me carefully: there is no memory leak" // -- Scott Meyers, Eff C++ 2nd Ed Item 10 But is there some function I can call at the end of my program to: a) confirm I've called dealloc() for every alloc() and that the next pointer is currently at start b) release the memory. Valgrind supports suppressing the complaint but the check of deallocs matches allocs would be a useful test anyway. Darren

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