Re: [Boost-users] top posting, was boost::proto helpful for a compiler project?

I know its a rule, but I think it is dumb. My phone does not even support botting posting for example, does that mean I'm not allowed to post to this newgroup? my guess is that it started off with a few people wanting to separate themselves from others by usage of arbitrary rules in order to obtain some form of "l33tn3$$" without having actually considering the merits or lack thereof ubtil after their motives were question in which scenario artificial ones were created to support the habbit. Modern mail clients (my phone not one of them) support threaded mail anyways and so what you get is the same email. 100 times in a thread. There has been the argument that if you were ob a forum that they go by bottom posting but again modern mail clients support threading anyways, and I don't know about you, but I can't recall the last time I was reading a forum and every post included included the entirety of the posts to the thread prior. Lastly, why would you ever want to pick up a thread by reading the middle of it? Using the forum analogy, one would be hard pressed to find someone whose month was to always read a thread by starting on page 12, so, group by thread and read from the start ------Original Message------ From: Eric Niebler Sender: boost-users-bounces@lists.boost.org To: boost-users@lists.boost.org ReplyTo: boost-users@lists.boost.org Sent: Jan 26, 2009 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [Boost-users] boost::proto helpful for a compiler project? Please don't top-post. See http://www.boost.org/community/policy.html#effective peter_foelsche@agilent.com wrote:
Eric Niebler wrote:
peter_foelsche@agilent.com wrote:
How can boost proto help me in my compiler project?
Is it another way to write a grammar and parse it?
If by "compiler" you mean something that reads a text file, parses it according to a grammar and Does Something, then Proto is *not* what you are looking for. Use Boost.Spirit.
ok. Can you give me an application area for boost::proto? In short I don't understand what DomainSpecificEmbeddedLanguage means.
The term is defined in Proto's documentation, and many examples are given there. http://boost-sandbox.sf.net/libs/proto HTH, -- Eric Niebler BoostPro Computing http://www.boostpro.com _______________________________________________ Boost-users mailing list Boost-users@lists.boost.org http://lists.boost.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/boost-users Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 21:14,
I know its a rule, but I think it is dumb. My phone does not even support botting posting for example, does that mean I'm not allowed to post to this newgroup? my guess is that it started off with a few people wanting to separate themselves from others by usage of arbitrary rules in order to obtain some form of "l33tn3$$" without having actually considering the merits or lack thereof ubtil after their motives were question in which scenario artificial ones were created to support the habbit.
Perhaps it's designed in part to increase post quality by making people post from full-fledged email clients where they're more likely to consider their responses and less likely to omit apostrophes/capitalization/spelling. Regardless, the rules have served well so far, and thus are unlikely to change just for someone who doesn't want to develop "botting posting habbits [sic]".
There has been the argument that if you were ob a forum that they go by bottom posting but again modern mail clients support threading anyways, and I don't know about you, but I can't recall the last time I was reading a forum and every post included included the entirety of the posts to the thread prior.
Nor should a post to this message group. That's covered under "Don't Overquote" at the same link that talks about preferring bottom-posting: http://www.boost.org/community/policy.html#effective
Lastly, why would you ever want to pick up a thread by reading the middle of it? Using the forum analogy, one would be hard pressed to find someone whose month was to always read a thread by starting on page 12, so, group by thread and read from the start
Having the necessary -- and no more -- context is extremely helpful when answering an email that just arrived, since most people on the list follow many threads at once. Forcing dozens (or more) readers to all search for the context is far less efficient and far more error prone than just having the sender make it clear. Again, the same link says something similar, under "Well-Crafted Posting is Worth the Effort": http://www.boost.org/community/policy.html#effective

Am Dienstag 27 Januar 2009 schrieb raindog@macrohmasheen.com:
I know its a rule, but I think it is dumb. My phone does not even support botting posting for example, does that mean I'm not allowed to post to this newgroup? my guess is that it started off with a few people wanting to separate themselves from others by usage of arbitrary rules in order to obtain some form of "l33tn3$$" without having actually considering the merits or lack thereof ubtil after their motives were question in which scenario artificial ones were created to support the habbit.
You are trolling, as you did before: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lib.boost.user/43825/focus=43840 Please stop it.
Modern mail clients (my phone not one of them) support threaded mail anyways and so what you get is the same email. 100 times in a thread.
Heh? Sound like over-quoting, which is as bad habit as top posting.
There has been the argument that if you were ob a forum that they go by bottom posting but again modern mail clients support threading anyways, and I don't know about you, but I can't recall the last time I was reading a forum and every post included included the entirety of the posts to the thread prior.
A forum thread doesn't support sub-threads, this is why its so hard to follow a long discussion.
Lastly, why would you ever want to pick up a thread by reading the middle of it? Using the forum analogy, one would be hard pressed to find someone whose month was to always read a thread by starting on page 12, so, group by thread and read from the start
Again: Forums != Mailing list. -- Maik PS: Be nice. Eric and the other C++ Overlords give you support on boost free of charge. Not to top post if he asks you to isn't a big deal. It results in you having the info you want and Eric spending less time on giving you the info.

Am Dienstag 27 Januar 2009 schrieb raindog <at> macrohmasheen.com:
I know its a rule, but I think it is dumb. My phone does not even support botting posting for
Just a suggestion but, if you _must_ post from your phone you could use the GMane web site via your phone's browser. http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lib.user presents the latest threads. If your browser really s**ks like my BlackBerry's and won't allow you navigate from the thread list, you can use a URL something like http://post.gmane.org/post.php?group=gmane.comp.lib.boost.user&followup=NNNNN will bring you to a page where you can follow up to post #NNNNN. You can get NNNNN by inspecting the link of the post to which you want to respond. A pain? Certainly more difficult than doing this from a full-up workstation (or an iPhone) but I think the result is worth it. Sorry for wandering off-topic. Ken

On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:14:24 +0000, raindog@macrohmasheen.com wrote:
I know its a rule, but I think it is dumb. My phone does not even support botting posting for example, does that mean I'm not allowed to post to this newgroup?
Are you saying it's impossible for you to move the cursor to the bottom of a message in order to write your response there? If that's the case you'd probably be better off getting a phone with proper cursor control (or using a real computer).
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Jonathan Franklin
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