Re: [Boost-users] RTTI for VC 6

At Sunday 2004-08-15 05:31, you wrote:

Note that the original response was that I should post my comments to the other forum yet the Boost web site says that this forum is one of two forums to post bugs and suggestions in.

Another response indicated that my suggestion is not possible. I did not say that it is possible, but I doubt that it can be said that it definitely is not possible.

You are definitely being unreasonable about saying that I "dumps on the warning messages". Try to show us where I did that; you can't.

from the message I originally responded to: "There might have been a warning, but Boost produces so many other warnings that I missed the warning if there was one."

When you say "why hasn't the OP updated??" you ask that as if you don't really want to know the answer. I get the impression that whatever I say, you will still insist that I am being unreasonable.

I think it's unreasonable to expect anyone to continue to have to write code for a crippled product. It's been over 2 years since vs.net was released. How long do _you_ think it's reasonable for have to be restricted to a once existing product? I note that you haven't said why you haven't/can't/won't upgrade, so it's hard to tell whether I'll think _you_ are being unreasonable. It's very likely that I'll consider the management who made the decision to not upgrade are the culprits.

Is that the official position?

I'm not an "official"

Is it likely that support of VC 6 will be dropped?

According to another message in this thread, Microsoft will drop support in 46 days.

If that is not true, then the comments below that are critical of me and indicating that support should be expected to be stopped seems unreasonable to me.

I have no idea when the library authors will quit supporting an old compiler

Again, look to see where I dumped on the warning messages. You can't find that and therefore you need to state that it is incorrect to say I did.

I posted where I thought you "dumped" on the warnings. the exact substring to which I refer is: "but Boost produces so many other warnings" Now if you're not using vc6, I apologize. If you _are_, then VC6 has been known for some time to be particularly inept at handling templates (for example it publishes warnings about fully expanded typenames exceeding 256 characters). I was attempting to point that out and then I was chided for "dumping on VC". I have in the past, (VC6) but I don't believe I've complained much about 7, 7.1, or 8. I'm currently running regression tests on 7.1 and 8 so I _do_ have VC, it's just 6.0 that I (rightfully, IMO) think is a PoS.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor A. Wagner Jr." To: Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 3:42 AM Subject: Re: [Boost-users] RTTI for VC 6

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you're being unreasonable. some guy came in here with a KNOWN poor and out of date compiler and dumps on the warning messages he gets and implies that the folks a boost should/could do something about it (Microsoft HAS done something about it, they're issued TWO releases since then.....why hasn't the OP updated??) . I'm on record here as saying we should save the world a fortune in time and quit supporting such a poor compiler. (now THAT is flame bait, and I don't give a <insert favorite expletive>.... Microsoft VC++6.0 is NOT a reasonable compiler..... within months of it's release, the ISO standard was voted (of course they didn't conform, I believe that any rational person looking at ALL the behavior of Microsoft back in 1997-1998 can ONLY come to the conclusion that they were trying to "kill" C++). Microsoft STILL has NOT updated the STL that they ship with VC++6.0...do you want me to go on?)

In my opinion, the only reason that boost hasn't officially told everyone that VC++6.0 is no longer supported is because Dave Abrahams apparently has a customer that "cannot update". It costs a small fortune to try to make everything work with VC++6.0 and it is NOT worth the effort).

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