Hi, after having had some trouble with the installation, I could finally test Tulip. My graph is fairly small at the moment, with about 10k nodes and 20k edges. I'll have to test if it would work in cytoscape, but I doubt it. In that sense, I really like Tulip because it behaves nicely and I can imagine that it will do this also for larger graphs. Although, I don't know how large they really can get. What kind of disappointed me are the layout algorithms in Tulip. Even though there might be some plugin-layouts which I haven't tested, this is really nicely working in cytoscape. Installing e.g. the HistogramView-plugin failed due to not understandable reasons. In total, I would say that Tulip is not really helpful in my case, sadly. Therefore, I hope that some of you may have other solutions or suggestions to the problem. Best, Cedric On Thursday, 30. September 2010 22:52:39 Marsh Ray wrote:
On 09/29/2010 04:36 AM, Adam Spargo wrote:
Hi Cedric, I have been trying to use a program called Tulip to visualise my graphs, it claims to work up to millions of nodes, but as yet I still get crashes for relatively small graphs.
That was my experience with Tulip as well.
My main problem has been that all my machines with enough RAM are remote and the x-connection is too slow. I have put some more RAM in my desktop but now the graphics card seems to struggle. Waiting for a new graphics card ... Tulip does support batch mode, so I could run on a big memory machine and output hardcopy, but I haven't had a chance to really learn it interactively yet.
I've been playing a little with OpenGL and large graphs. Without making a huge amount of code, a simple massless electrostatic model can make cool looking layouts and animations.
Having that third dimensions makes the layout problem much much easier. It would be interesting to see what you get if you simply squash the result back down to two.
Anyone on this list could probably do something in C++ that gets the job done without crashing faster than it took me to finally give up after trying all those student-project-like viewers written in Java.
I'll let you know if I have any success.
Yes, please keep us posted.
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