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Poll results for Boost-Users
by Boost-Users＠yahoogroups.com 12 Feb '02

12 Feb '02

The following Boost-Users poll is now closed. Here are the final results: POLL QUESTION: Yahoo! groups can be configured so that only the moderators can view membership list, or so that membership lists can be viewed by anyone (email addresses are always munged for non-moderators; my email address would appear as something like jim.hyslop@.le...) Do you want the membership list to be freely available to be viewed by anyone, or do you want the membership list kept private so only the moderators can view the list? CHOICES AND RESULTS - I want only the moderators to be able to view the membership list, 0 votes, 0.00% - I want anyone to be able to view the membership list, 0 votes, 0.00% For more information about this group, please visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Boost-Users For help with Yahoo! Groups, please visit http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/

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RE: [Boost-Users] Suggestion -- Boost Building
by Wismar, John 01 Feb '02

01 Feb '02

In my case (the most recent how-can-I-build-this question) I'm trying (unsuccessfully) to use the regex library, which requires compiling.... I used to be able to build this, but since the boost.build stuff came along, I've been completely unable to build anything at all. The documentation is worse than useless because it's so self-contradictory.... -------------------------- John Wismar mailto:jwismar@alldata.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Duane Murphy [mailto:duanemurphy@mac.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 12:15 AM > To: Boost Users > Subject: [Boost-Users] Suggestion -- Boost Building > > > It seems a lot of questions come up on the list about > "building" the boost libraries. > > I wonder how many of these people realize that most of the > functionality of the Boost "libraries" is completely > encapsulated in the header files? There are significant > portions like regex and the graph library (?) that do require > compiling, but much of it does not. > > Is there anything that can be done to make it more clear that > compiling is often not necessary? > > I'm just trying to relieve some stress from people who may > very well not require compiling. And I have compassion for > those that do and are having trouble. > > I'm not sure exactly what can be done, but it might be worth > some thought. > > ...Duane > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ---------------------~--> Sponsored by VeriSign - The Value > of Trust Pinpoint the right security solution for your > company - FREE Guide from industry leader VeriSign gives you > all the facts. > http://us.click.yahoo.com/lWSNbC/WdiDAA/yigFAA> /EbFolB/TM > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------~-> > > Info: <http://www.boost.org> > Wiki: <http://www.crystalclearsoftware.com/cgi-bin/boost_wiki/wiki.pl> > Unsubscribe: <mailto:boost-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

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Cannot find regular expression symbols in Solaris debug
by phlasnicek 31 Jan '02

31 Jan '02

Hi, I am using Solaris Workshop 5.0 and I am using boost libraries for regular expressions. Everything builds fine and runs ok except when I try to attach to the process and run the debugger. I get the following error: warning: cannot demangle '__1c9uX__unnamed_6ofsRKVdR8zYNQre_get_error_str6FI_pkc_' Anyone have any suggestions, I would appreciate it very much. Thanks Paul

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RE: [Boost-Users] Digest Number 81
by Anthony Kolarik 31 Jan '02

31 Jan '02

> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 20:22:32 -0500 (EST) > From: Jeremy Siek <jsiek(a)cs.indiana.edu> > Subject: RE: RE: Dependencies for tokenizer? > > On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Jeff Garland wrote: > jeff> > jeff> I'm sure there is. It is a matter of getting the "25 lines of > jeff> actual code" (my guess) in those 47 headers that tokenizer > jeff> really needs into a small header. I'm sure with a small > jeff> effort you could do it. Perhaps you could even find a way to > jeff> improve the overall design in the process. > > Well, it could get a little messy. The iterator adaptors use > some stuff > from the type_traits headers, which have lots of workarounds > for different > compilers, etc., etc. > > For a super simple C++ stringtok see the header > > boost/pending/stringtok.hpp > > It's not an official boost library, but you might find it fits > your needs. > > Cheers, > Jeremy Thank you for pointing out the pitfalls of reworking tokenizer and for pointing out boost/pending/stringtok.hpp, it serves fine for my purposes. -- Tony K.

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1_26_0: regex/thread on W32 build via jam?
by John Maddock 31 Jan '02

31 Jan '02

>that's what I'm doing now. >I just want to fully understand the new jam way of building/using boost, >and eg to see what is neccessary to use the 'new way'. >Will the 'old way' be deprecated someday? Probably not any time soon. >Does/will the new way support static libs? It does for regex, can't comment on anything else though. - John Maddock http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/john_maddock/

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RE: [Boost-Users] Re: boost::pool + shared memory
by Tom Matelich 30 Jan '02

30 Jan '02

I've been using the ACE_Malloc framework from ACE (http://cs.wustl.edu/~schmidt/ACE.html) to solve a similar problem (sharing statics between DLL's). It takes a little while to figure out because the documentation is a little slim, but once you do it pays off pretty quickly. Doxygen documentation for ACE_Malloc is at: http://doc.ece.uci.edu/Doxygen/Current/html/ace/classACE__Malloc__T.html and the shared_mem memory pool is at: http://doc.ece.uci.edu/Doxygen/Current/html/ace/classACE__Shared__Memory__Po ol.html I ended up not having to write an STL allocator using ACE_Malloc, but I don't think it would be too difficult. If you get it right, a lot of ACE users would be your friend :) Tom Matelich > -----Original Message----- > From: xpav_2000 [mailto:alex@pavloff.net] > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 6:01 PM > To: Boost-Users(a)yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Boost-Users] Re: boost::pool + shared memory > > > --- In Boost-Users@y..., Tom Matelich <tmatelich@z...> wrote: > > Looks like pool may not be what I need, darn. I like > > to weasel as many boost classes into my project as possible. > > I've got a similar question -- I've got a whole pile of strings that > I want to share between processes, and I was thinking a reference- > counted string implementation with the actual data in shared memory > would be a good way to do that. > > Do you think a memory pool placed in shared memory, with the string > class modified to allocate/deallocate there would work? > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ---------------------~--> > Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! > Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! > Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/nuyOHD/7.PDAA/yigFAA/EbFolB/TM > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------~-> > > Info: <http://www.boost.org> > Wiki: <http://www.crystalclearsoftware.com/cgi-bin/boost_wiki/wiki.pl> > Unsubscribe: <mailto:boost-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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1_26_0: regex/thread on W32 build via jam?
by Bruno.Voigt＠ic3s.de 30 Jan '02

30 Jan '02

> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2002 07:55:46 -0500 > From: John Maddock <john_maddock(a)compuserve.com> > Subject: 1_26_0: regex/thread on W32 build via jam? > > >But how do I have to change my project settings for a static executable? > >I just changed the the lib search path to this new monster path and it > >does not work > >The linker is missing the vc7-re300dm.lib then. > > why not carry on using the libs you built from the makefiles? Hi John, that's what I'm doing now. I just want to fully understand the new jam way of building/using boost, and eg to see what is neccessary to use the 'new way'. Will the 'old way' be deprecated someday? Does/will the new way support static libs? > >And how to link the boost thread stuff? > >Is it supported for statically linked apps at all? > Build threadmon.cpp into a dll, and the rest of the source into a static > lib with the options you want. Okay, thanks, I will try this combination. bye, Bruno

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RE: [Boost-Users] boost::pool + shared memory
by Tom Matelich 30 Jan '02

30 Jan '02

Looks like pool may not be what I need, darn. I like to weasel as many boost classes into my project as possible. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Matelich [mailto:tmatelich@zetec.com] > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:49 PM > To: 'boost-users(a)yahoogroups.com' > Cc: 'shammah(a)voyager.net' > Subject: [Boost-Users] boost::pool + shared memory > > > I need to build a system for having miscellaneous objects in > a shared memory > segment. Essentially, we need a few inter-process singletons. These > classes have STL containers, so I was looking at using > pool_allocator and > writing a UserAllocator to use ACE_Mem_Map ( > http://doc.ece.uci.edu/Doxygen/Current/html/ace/classACE__Mem_ > _Map.html#_det > ails ) or something. I just wanted to see if anyone had done anything > resembling this and could give me any pointers or tips. > > Thanks, > > Tom Matelich > > PS Why can't I see who is a member of this group? I wanted > to check to see > if Steve Cleary was a member. Sorry if you are Steve. > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ---------------------~--> > Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! > Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! > Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/WoOlbB/7.PDAA/ySSFAA/EbFolB/TM > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------~-> > > Info: <http://www.boost.org> > Wiki: <http://www.crystalclearsoftware.com/cgi-bin/boost_wiki/wiki.pl> > Unsubscribe: <mailto:boost-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

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RE: Dependencies for tokenizer?
by Anthony Kolarik 30 Jan '02

30 Jan '02

> > > Any ideas about how to get this functionality w/o all the headers? Thanks, > > > -- Tony K. > > > In order to use the tokenizer classes I end up requiring 47 files, which > > What's wrong with 47 files? How much longer does it take to compile? It actually does slow things down noticeably, since it's a small project. > He might be sub setting boost and only wants to include the needed files. Exactly. I have 47 more files checked into source control that everybody else has to download (and have the tool check every time they refresh) so that I can parse a command line. I suppose I could check in the whole boost library, (~2000 files in the download I got,) but I'd rather just take what I need for now. > Anyway, this was brought up during the review, but at the time only 20 files > were needed (the very first tokenizer only need 2 boost headers). It was the > switch to iterator_adaptors that caused the include explosion at the time... Evidently reviewers thought 20 was reasonable, and I assume that some major problems are solved by the 47 headers that weren't by 20. I just wondered if there was a lighter weight way in boost to do my little tokenizing task. Is there? -- Tony K.

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1_26_0: regex/thread on W32 build via jam?
by John Maddock 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

>But how do I have to change my project settings for a static executable? >I just changed the the lib search path to this new monster path and it >does not work >The linker is missing the vc7-re300dm.lib then. why not carry on using the libs you built from the makefiles? >And how to link the boost thread stuff? >Is it supported for statically linked apps at all? Build threadmon.cpp into a dll, and the rest of the source into a static lib with the options you want. - John Maddock http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/john_maddock/

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object_pool, O(N) destroy?
by kevin_godden＠agilent.com 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

Hi, I am considering using boost::object_pool for fast allocation and deallocation of likkle container/token objects. I need to make this as fast as possible, to this end I wonder why object_pool seems to use boost::pool::ordered_free() (O(N)) rather than the faster free() (O(1))? There must be a reason, but I can't seem to find it in the Lib's documentation. I would be interested in hearing if peoples experiences/comments on using object_pool. Thanks for reading! Kevin\

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RE: [Boost-Users] RE: object_pool, O(N) destroy?
by kevin_godden＠agilent.com 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

I agree, it does sound like a job for a Policy whatsit. If I get a chance I could try a few things and see if anything works out and let you know. Although, if time constraints work out the way I think they will, I might have to stick with a cut&paste solution! Kevin\ -----Original Message----- From: scleary(a)jerviswebb.com [mailto:scleary@jerviswebb.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 5:13 AM To: Boost-Users(a)yahoogroups.com Cc: shammah(a)voyager.net Subject: [Boost-Users] RE: object_pool, O(N) destroy? > -----Original Message----- > From: hicks [mailto:hicks@kgk.co.jp] > > It sounds like a case where a type trait, identifying the need for the > pool to responsible for deletion, > would be appropriate. Then objects which did not need to be destroyed > (e.g. ptrs, "plain" structs) > could be handled by optimized code. But that's more work than cut and > paste. Actually, the difference is in how the pool is used, not on the type of object being allocated. So it sounds more like a case for a policy-based design. Too bad, I just don't have time to do that right now... :( -Steve Info: <http://www.boost.org> Wiki: <http://www.crystalclearsoftware.com/cgi-bin/boost_wiki/wiki.pl> Unsubscribe: <mailto:boost-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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RE: object_pool, O(N) destroy?
by scleary＠jerviswebb.com 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

> -----Original Message----- > From: hicks [mailto:hicks@kgk.co.jp] > > It sounds like a case where a type trait, identifying the need for the > pool to responsible for deletion, > would be appropriate. Then objects which did not need to be destroyed > (e.g. ptrs, "plain" structs) > could be handled by optimized code. But that's more work than cut and > paste. Actually, the difference is in how the pool is used, not on the type of object being allocated. So it sounds more like a case for a policy-based design. Too bad, I just don't have time to do that right now... :( -Steve

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Dependencies for tokenizer?
by Anthony Kolarik 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

In order to use the tokenizer classes I end up requiring 47 files, which seems a little steep for my purposes. All I really need is to tokenize strings based on a couple of single char delimiters. Kind of a C++ step above strtok() was what I had in mind. Any ideas about how to get this functionality w/o all the headers? Thanks, -- Tony K.

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RE: [Boost-Users] object_pool, O(N) destroy?
by kevin_godden＠agilent.com 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

Thanks for the Info Steve, In this case, I am less interested in the pool's destructor as I _should_ have a 1 to 1 on malloc()ing and destroying the individual objects (if all goes well...). The pool will only be destroyed once during the lifetime of the application so I could probably suffer a O(N^2) pool destructor. I will try what you recommend in your postscript. Thanks again.. Kevin\ -----Original Message----- From: scleary(a)jerviswebb.com [mailto:scleary@jerviswebb.com] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 2:10 PM To: Boost-Users(a)yahoogroups.com Cc: shammah(a)voyager.net Subject: RE: [Boost-Users] object_pool, O(N) destroy? > From: kevin_godden(a)agilent.com [mailto:kevin_godden@agilent.com] > > I am considering using boost::object_pool for fast allocation and > deallocation of likkle container/token objects. I need to make this as fast > as possible, to this end I wonder why object_pool seems to use > boost::pool::ordered_free() (O(N)) rather than the faster > free() (O(1))? > > There must be a reason, but I can't seem to find it in the Lib's > documentation. The object_pool keeps its free list ordered because of the requirements of its destructor. Its destructor steps through the free list, calling the destructor for any objects that weren't freed. The current algorithm is O(N) because the free list is ordered; if it wasn't ordered, it would be O(N^2). I'll document this in the code. -Steve P.S. An object_pool without the destructor behaviour may be what you want. Boost.Pool doesn't provide one, but you could just cut & paste the object_pool, remove the destructor, and change ordered_malloc/ordered_free to the regular malloc/free (you also won't need nextof). Just note that if you ever construct something from that pool and don't destruct it, you enter the fun realm of undefined behaviour... :) Info: <http://www.boost.org> Wiki: <http://www.crystalclearsoftware.com/cgi-bin/boost_wiki/wiki.pl> Unsubscribe: <mailto:boost-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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1_26_0: regex/thread on W32 build via jam?
by Bruno.Voigt＠ic3s.de 28 Jan '02

28 Jan '02

Hi! For my statically linked application (w32/sol8/linux) I was up to now using only the boost regex library. I build the regex lib the oldstyle way going to the build path and calling nmake -f vc7.mak, etc. In the project settings I included the regex/build/vc7 path as an additional lib search path. The buld step works as expected this way. boost::thread does provide only the newstyle jam build way. So I downloaded the boost::winbuild stuff and tried to build the whole boost via jam -sBOOST_ROOT=. -sTOOLS=msvc. It shows some errors for some pytho stuff but builds the regex and thread lib part. So I get for example a path boost_1_26_0\libs\regex\build\bin\libboost_regex.lib\msvc\release\runtime-link-dynamic with a libboost_regex.lib But how do I have to change my project settings for a static executable? I just changed the the lib search path to this new monster path and it does not work The linker is missing the vc7-re300dm.lib then. And how to link the boost thread stuff? Is it supported for statically linked apps at all? Any suggestions on how to make use of the jam build stuff in the right way ae really appreciated. TIA, Bruno PS: will there be a working suncc-tools.jam file in the next release? -- Bruno.Voigt(a)ic3s.de # IC3S AG # Tel. +49.4106.655.105 # Fax. +49.4106.655.55 http://www.ic3s.de # Mobile +49.700.686.00.686 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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RE: [Boost-Users] object_pool, O(N) destroy?
by scleary＠jerviswebb.com 28 Jan '02

28 Jan '02

> From: kevin_godden(a)agilent.com [mailto:kevin_godden@agilent.com] > > I am considering using boost::object_pool for fast allocation and > deallocation of likkle container/token objects. I need to make this as fast > as possible, to this end I wonder why object_pool seems to use > boost::pool::ordered_free() (O(N)) rather than the faster > free() (O(1))? > > There must be a reason, but I can't seem to find it in the Lib's > documentation. The object_pool keeps its free list ordered because of the requirements of its destructor. Its destructor steps through the free list, calling the destructor for any objects that weren't freed. The current algorithm is O(N) because the free list is ordered; if it wasn't ordered, it would be O(N^2). I'll document this in the code. -Steve P.S. An object_pool without the destructor behaviour may be what you want. Boost.Pool doesn't provide one, but you could just cut & paste the object_pool, remove the destructor, and change ordered_malloc/ordered_free to the regular malloc/free (you also won't need nextof). Just note that if you ever construct something from that pool and don't destruct it, you enter the fun realm of undefined behaviour... :)

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MacCVS Pro hints
by voidampersand 27 Jan '02

27 Jan '02

I'm trying to get with the program here, so I just got the boost sources from CVS, using MacCVS Pro. The main thing that tripped me up was the instructions on the SourceForge page have command lines that are word wrapped. Anyway, here are some MacCVS session settings that work for me: Remote Host Information Server Hostname: cvs.boost.sourceforge.net CVS Root: /cvsroot/boost CVS User Name: anonymous CVS Password: [+] Save Password Also, in "File Translation and Encoding" you will want to add these mappings before you check out: .hpp TEXT CWIE .cxx TEXT CWIE .jam TEXT CWIE .pdf TEXT CARO MacCVS Pro is available at <http://sourceforge.net/projects/maccvspro/>. Regards, Tom

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Re: [Boost-Users] memcmp, strlen, strcmp not found in string.h?
by Steven Woolgar 27 Jan '02

27 Jan '02

> My question: Why aren't they in STLPort's string.h? > Is it a voluntary omission, and if so, why? > Should I talk to the guys who created Boost instead? > Should I be asking this on the developer's mailing list?? =) If I am not mistaken, the standard C functions would be in the the standard C include files, not the C++ files. So: strlen would be in <cstring> the string class would be in <string> Note that the new include style does not have the .h at the end. HTH Woolie

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Suggestion -- Boost Building
by Duane Murphy 26 Jan '02

26 Jan '02

It seems a lot of questions come up on the list about "building" the boost libraries. I wonder how many of these people realize that most of the functionality of the Boost "libraries" is completely encapsulated in the header files? There are significant portions like regex and the graph library (?) that do require compiling, but much of it does not. Is there anything that can be done to make it more clear that compiling is often not necessary? I'm just trying to relieve some stress from people who may very well not require compiling. And I have compassion for those that do and are having trouble. I'm not sure exactly what can be done, but it might be worth some thought. ...Duane

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Compiling with VC7
by Wismar, John 25 Jan '02

25 Jan '02

I wonder if someone can help me get up and running with Boost using VC7. I've tried to follow the Boost Build documentation, and am running into problems. A description of different things I've tried is below. Thanks in advance for any help anyone can provide! So far I've downloaded the Windows version of Boost.Build, and have run boost-build.exe (I couldn't tell if it did anything.) I added the boost-build directory to my PATH by hand, along with the VC7/bin directory. I also remember some discussion about how jam couldn't handle VC's default install dir (which is, for the purposes of this discussion, where mine is) because it has spaces in it, so I've used SUBST to define Z: as my VS.NET path. When I run jam from the boost_1_26_0 dir, using: jam -sBOOST_ROOT=. -sTOOLS="msvc" I get errors that look like: msvc-C++-action libs\regex\build\bin\libboost_regex.lib\msvc\debug\runtime-link- dynamic\c_regex_traits.obj c_regex_traits.cpp c1xx : fatal error C1108: unable to find DLL: 'mspdb70.dll' Z:\vc7\bin\cl /Zm400 -nologo -GX -c -I"libs\regex\build" -Fo"libs\reg ex\build\bin\libboost_regex.lib\MSVC\debug\c_regex_traits.obj" -Tp"libs\regex\b uild\../src\c_regex_traits.cpp" ...failed msvc-C++-action libs\regex\build\bin\libboost_regex.lib\MSVC\debug\c_regex_traits.obj ... msvc-C++-action libs\regex\build\bin\libboost_regex.lib\MSVC\debug\c_regex_traits_common.obj c_regex_traits_common.cpp c1xx : fatal error C1108: unable to find DLL: 'mspdb70.dll' So I added VC7's common7/IDE/ directory to my path, because that's where mspdb70.dll lives, but it didn't resolve the issue. Delving deeper into the docs, I found the suggestion that I do: set TOOLS=msvc jam instead of what the top level docs say, but then I get a message that I didn't set the toolset, and I should use: set VISUALC=<path> set JAM_TOOLSET=VISUALC jam When I do that, I get: Compiler is Microsoft Visual C++ warning: unknown rule project-root warning: unknown rule subinclude warning: unknown rule subinclude warning: unknown rule subinclude warning: unknown rule subinclude ...found 7 targets... Etc. -------------------------- John Wismar mailto:jwismar@alldata.com

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mem_fn and references?
by Duane Murphy 25 Jan '02

25 Jan '02

I am trying to make a member function call to all objects returned by an iterator. mem_fn is giving me an error when trying to call get_pointer() for a reference object. There is no overload for get_pointer of a reference object. Is there some reason or should I be doing this differently. The long description is that I am iterating over a container of objects. I would like to make a member function call on each of these objects. Then I get an error that there is no matching function for get_pointer( obj ). I have solved this by providing my own get_pointer() overload specifically for obj to prevent any bad things from happening until I can found out what the real problem is. Here is some pseudo code to get things in the right orientation. class obj { public: void method(); }; class obj_iterator { public: obj& iterator::operator*() const { return obj_; } }; class obj_container { public: obj_iterator begin(); obj_iterator end(); } { ... obj_container c; foreach( c.begin(), c.end(), mem_fn( method ) ); } Thanks, ...Duane

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Solaris/sparcWorks 5.0
by sebmarc 24 Jan '02

24 Jan '02

Does anybody know how to compile boost with Solaris 7 and sparcWorks 5.0. Looking at http://www.boost.org/tools/build/index.html, there is no place for this compiler. Any help appreciated. Thanks, Seb.

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RE: [Boost-Users] Subject: Poll results for Boost-Users
by Tom Matelich 24 Jan '02

24 Jan '02

I asked the original question that sparked this, and its because (at the root) I want to know whether feature requests need to be mirrored on the main boost list. So if I can be sure that the author of the library is at least listening to my boost-users message, I don't have to CC him/her or spam both lists. That is why I wanted access to the members, and as a support mechanism, why I thought it was important for boost-users. I realize membership != reading the messages, so perhaps my point is moot. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim.Hyslop [mailto:jim.hyslop@leitch.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 7:20 AM > To: 'Boost-Users(a)yahoogroups.com' > Subject: RE: [Boost-Users] Subject: Poll results for Boost-Users > > > Chris Little [SMTP:clittle@renlearn.ca] wrote: > > When the question first came up of allowing members to view > the membership > > list, one of the moderators started a poll (around the beginning of > > January). > That'd be me. > > > Unfortunately polling in this group is limited to moderators. > > The moderators then decided to discuss the issue amongst > themselves and > they > > haven't reported back. > > Hoo, boy, I seem to have dropped the ball on several counts here. > > First, my apologies for not cancelling the poll after > discovering polling > was limited to moderators. > > Second, my apologies for not reporting back to the group on > the results of > our discussion (I'm taking responsibility for this, since I'm > the one who > opened the can of worms in the first place). > > We identified a potential problem with spam email harvesting. > Granted, in > the public pages emails are hidden, so that only the first > letter of the > domain appears (my address, for example, would appear as > "jim.hyslop@l..." > One of the moderators pointed out: > > > About half of the email addresses on > > the first page start with either an a, h, or y. > > ... the problem is that when harvesting email addresses you > > don't need 100% accuracy. Just assume that a's are aol, all b's are > > bigfoot, all e's are earthlink, all h's are hotmail.com, > and all y's > > are yahoo.com. These letters are going to be [greater than] > half the list > and you > > will be correct [greater than] half the time. > > We could not come up with any compelling arguments in favour > of opening the > list. I believe the best summary was: > > > I'm not sure what the benefits of public membership would be. > > Arguments such as "I need to know if X is a member of > > the group" seem empty - this is a *mailing list* after all. > > To access individuals, you should get hold of them in > > other ways. If they are active members of the list, you'll > > still know they're members. > > No moderators actually spoke out in favour of opening the > list up, so the > status quo remains. > > We moderators are, of course, open to suggestions, and if a reasonably > strong argument comes up, then we will re-examine the issue. > If anyone feels > strongly about it, you can either post your rationale here or > email the > moderators at boost-users-owner(a)yahoogroups.com (the > 'boost-users-owner' > name is a bit misleading - email goes to all moderators, not > just to the > owner). > > Similarly, on the topic of polls themselves, the general > consensus was that > if or when we identify a good reason to run a poll, then we > will open up the > feature. Until then, there's no reason to change the status quo. > > -- > Jim > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ---------------------~--> > Tiny Wireless Camera under $80! > Order Now! FREE VCR Commander! > Click Here - Only 1 Day Left! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/nuyOHD/7.PDAA/yigFAA/EbFolB/TM > -------------------------------------------------------------- > -------~-> > > Info: <http://www.boost.org> > Wiki: <http://www.crystalclearsoftware.com/cgi-bin/boost_wiki/wiki.pl> > Unsubscribe: <mailto:boost-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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Re: [BGL] BFS and copy problem (was Re: [boost] Compilation)
by Jeremy Siek 24 Jan '02

24 Jan '02

Again, Luca, we can't help you unless you post the code (the complete C++ file). I can't just guess what is going wrong. You're probably forgetting to do something, and there's no way I can tell what that is based on what you've written below. On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, lucatoldo wrote: luca.t> I think there is something I do not know, rather important, about the luca.t> process of adding edges to the graph object. Infact, even in the luca.t> simple example/bfs.cpp if I swap the start with the ends, I get luca.t> different results. Namely: luca.t> luca.t> If I change the code from this luca.t> luca.t> boost::add_edge(0,2,G); luca.t> boost::add_edge(1,1,G); luca.t> boost::add_edge(3,1,G); luca.t> ... luca.t> boost::add_edge(4,1,G); luca.t> luca.t> to luca.t> luca.t> boost::add_edge(2,0,G); luca.t> boost::add_edge(1,1,G); luca.t> boost::add_edge(1,3,G); luca.t> ... luca.t> boost::add_edge(1,4,G); luca.t> luca.t> then I get luca.t> luca.t> the graph OK but the distances and the parent vectors are screwed: luca.t> luca.t> I get luca.t> luca.t> distances: 0 2 2 2 1 luca.t> instead of luca.t> distances: 0 2 1 2 2 luca.t> luca.t> and luca.t> luca.t> parent[0] = 0 luca.t> parent[1] = 4 luca.t> parent[2] = 4 luca.t> parent[3] = 4 luca.t> parent[4] = 0 luca.t> luca.t> instead of luca.t> luca.t> parent[0] = 0 luca.t> parent[1] = 2 luca.t> parent[2] = 0 luca.t> parent[3] = 2 luca.t> parent[4] = 2 luca.t> luca.t> I feel I am missing some basic knowledge on how to appropriately use luca.t> this powerful and amazingly fast system. I would love to learn the luca.t> missing bit. luca.t> luca.t> Looking forward your advice and sorry again for the dumminess of this luca.t> question. luca.t> luca.t> luca.t> Info: http://www.boost.org Send unsubscribe requests to: <mailto:boost-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com> luca.t> luca.t> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ luca.t> luca.t> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeremy Siek http://php.indiana.edu/~jsiek/ Ph.D. Student, Indiana Univ. B'ton email: jsiek(a)osl.iu.edu C++ Booster (http://www.boost.org) office phone: (812) 855-3608 ----------------------------------------------------------------------

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